Vaccine effectiveness limited, says CDC: "[T]he ratio of hospitalizations to cases was moderately lower among fully vaccinated compared with unvaccinated"

American Thinker ^ | 09/21/2021 | Andy Zhao

[Irish Eyes]

Thanks for the recap. I am eagerly awaiting part 2. Any idea when part 2 will come out?

[Irish Eyes]

Bingo!

[Steve_Seattle]

"Yes, that's 13.3 vs. 17.1, a mere 22% less in hospitalization over the unvaccinated, not >10X."

I hate to defend the CDC, but the first study referred to DEATHS, the second report referred to HOSPITALIZATIONS.

[DoughtyOne]

LIARS!

They totally lied to the public about this vaccine, and are
still doing so.

[G Larry]

The vaccines are LESS EFFECTIVE in prevention than early treatment with the Ivermectin protocol. (which worked quite well for me)

[Steve_Seattle]

Highly vaxxed states like Vermont, Maine, Hawaii, Washington, and Oregon have seen huge spikes in cases, just like low-vax Idaho and some of the southern states.

On the other hand, Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay saw huge drops in cases once they achieved widespread vaccination. There might be other factors involved in these declines, but I don't know what they are.

[CraigEsq]

“Last Friday, the CDC published the latest MMWR report, which stated, “Real-world studies of population-level vaccine effectiveness against laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection and COVID-19 hospitalizations are limited in the United States.” Later in the same report it revealed some details: “[t]he ratio of hospitalizations to cases was moderately lower among fully vaccinated (13.3 hospitalizations per 100 cases) compared with unvaccinated (17.1 hospitalizations per 100 cases) groups” under the delta variant dominant environment. Yes, that’s 13.3 vs. 17.1, a mere 22% less in hospitalization over the unvaccinated, not >10X.”

Wow what a nice slight of hand in this misleading article. Did you catch it? The CDC graphic references total reduction in death and hospitalization, but the data used to refute it references rate of hospitalization as a percentage of cases. Therefore the conclusion is the CDC was lying. but notably absent from the conclusion is any difference in the rate of cases between the two groups to begin with...

[Bob434]

Thats what we have 5o find out, are deaths among the vaxxed increasing or decreasing from the average deaths of unvaxxed for the sick and elderly group? Is it actually,saving lives amoung the vulnerable or not?

The next important question is, are there long term health conditions being imposed by the vaccine in those who are hospitalized and don’t die?

[Bob434]

So,did you end up,getting it? If so, mind telling what price? If not, that’s OK. Just curious what the prescriptions is going for

[Steve_Seattle]

"The next important question is, are there long term health conditions being imposed by the vaccine in those who are hospitalized and don’t die?"

All along that's been my major concern, more than that the vaccines aren't 100% effective. I'm worried about such things as blood clotting, heart inflammation, damage to the immune system, damage to the female reproductive system, and other issues that have been reported and which some vaccine critics assert will get worse over time.

[qaz123]

I did not. However, I know two that did. Inexpensive and they were also given Doxycycline to compliment the Ivermectin.

A homemade ZIVERDO Pack.

And, if I’m not mistaken, the FLCCC site has the protocol for how to take everything.

[Bob434]

Thanks. We have “the horse paste”, EGCG, vit d, zinc, (as well,as a coiple,couple, antivirals, natural, oil of oregano, and olive leaf extract), but no antibiotic, but I suppose if we do get covid, we can start the regime, and go,to health center and ask for it, along with prednisone, they likely won’t give it, but at least we can ask.

Supposedly the “horse paste” is also,good for flues too. But alas,evidently flues have dissappeared from the face of the earth lol.

I should probably,get Quercetin and start with that, and use the paste only as last resort, but meh, whatever- if we get it, gonna do whatever I can with what I have, before I go to,to, if it ever gets to that point.. if it works, swell, if not, then oh well. Aill,.ikely,smuggle,in some ivermectin if I do have room go, to hospital though

[Bob434]

Yup, me too. I “think” the instances will be a small %, but it’s too early to tell. Not many things are zero risk, but there comes a point where the risk a product does have is just too great.

[rolling_stone]

and the rest of the story vaccines currently are not safe nor effctive and recenly have show worse outcomes than in the past...

7 The I-MASK+ protocol is a
bridge to vaccines and a safety
net for those who cannot or
have not been vaccinated; or
are vaccinated and have concerns regarding declining
protection against emerging
variants. Vaccines have shown
efficacy in preventing the most
severe outcomes of COVID -19
and are an important part of a
multi-modal strategy that must
also include early treatment.
The decision to get a vaccine
should be made in consultation with your health care provider.

[SgtHooper]

“The story I got was that VAERS was about 100% understated.”

And I’ll bet that your statement is another 100% understated!

[PMAS]

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[SgtHooper]

A good friend of mine, an elderly woman in her eighties, just received her 3rd shot last week. AND, a flu shot! (Couldn’t believe it!)

[cgbg]

We have some of those jab crazy types around here—Covid shots plus flu shots.

It has become the cult of vaccines—they think the jabs make them immortal.

If they watch too many pro vaxx PSAs they just get brainwashed.

[SgtHooper]

BINGO!

[PMAS]

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