Posted on 09/20/2021 6:57:25 AM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
While Mike Pence was lauded by Democrats — and widely criticized by the president and the Republican base — for his refusal to overturn the results of the election won by Joe Biden in 2020, it turns out that a different vice president may have been responsible for the decision.
In the upcoming book Peril, Robert Costa and Bob Woodward write that then-Vice President Pence reached out to 74-year-old Dan Quayle — who served as vice president from 1989 to 1993 under President George H. W. Bush — in the waning days of the Trump presidency.
"Over and over, Pence asked if there was anything he could do," Costa and Woodward write, suggesting that Pence was looking for a way to acquiesce to Donald Trump's demands that he reject the electoral votes legally-cast in Biden's favor.
According to the book, Quayle quickly put the kibosh on any effort to overturn the election, telling Pence: "Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away."
When Pence "pressed again," the authors write, he did so by explaining that he was under pressure from Trump. (A spokesman for Pence did not respond to a request for comment on Peril.)
"You don't know the position I'm in," he told Quayle, according to the authors, to which Quayle responded: "I do know the position you're in. I also know what the law is. You listen to the parliamentarian [who issues rulings about congressional authority]. That's all you do. You have no power.'"
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PS - because of 30 Pence’s failure, the USA today hangs in the balance, millions of illegals flooding an open border, taliban armed and equipped with billions of military equipment, Constitution under attack, babies slaughtered, capitalism attacked, human freedom attacked, etc.
Whether anyone considers that a fair legacy for the former VP or not, he will bear it all his days, since it all flowed from his choices.
He should have exercised these powers, but failed.
Pence was like the rest of the GOP, before and after the election. They knew the democrats cheat. They were silent, basically turning their spineless backs on Trump.
But that is still the funniest post so far of September 2021, and there are not many days left for the rest of those in the forum to top it.
I should have found the Dos Equis guy and made it a meme
What is Quayle’s freeper handle?
I’m just trying to fathom the reaction say in 2012 if the situation was reversed, Romney had won the EC, and Joe Biden as VP “invalidated” state results and unilaterally gave the election to Obama.
Would have been World War III
No. The Vice-President's role as defined by the Constitution and law is ceremonial and not parliamentarian.
Yes
He had kids in front of him with a black board
The school had the words on cue cards
He called them off for the kids...who wrote it on the black board
The school had potato misspelled on the card in the stack they handed him
Some think it was a set up....
See how well it worked...you never knew that till today...
http://www.capitalcentury.com/1992.html
Quayle staff should have picked it up....
Horrible sound and optics or him....not as bad as Bensons dress down but bad
Not a Quayle fanboy but facts are the cornerstone of conservatism
See 48
http://www.capitalcentury.com/1992.html
Parlimentarians are sometimes, if not just plain often, wrong on the law. There is a REASON the founding fathers put that last little voice about election fairness into the process, and Pence looked for a reason not to engage it. The founding fathers didn’t have time for bullshiite decorative processes.
Actually, no states submitted more than one slate.
There were a some rump legislators in a few states who sent in names of alternate electors but they weren't sanctioned by the states and had no more no more bearing than an alternate slate of electors from TX sent in by some Dem senators would have had.
What gives the vice-president the authority to decide whether the state's election certificate is illegitimate?
No, he did not. There were people claiming fraud in several states but only a single electoral vote count certificate was turned in by every state and none of the legislatures from any of the states submitted a second vote count. Pence had no choice but to count the votes submitted by the Electoral College.
“What gives the vice-president the authority to decide whether the state’s election certificate is illegitimate?”
how about fraud!
Or if Gore had tossed out the Florida vote in 2001?
There were claims of fraud but no proof of fraud. The vice-president is not a judge. It is not his place to rule whether a crime had been committed. Courts do that.
Now tell us what the “general welfare” means. Or how about “interstate commerce”, “right of the people to keep and bear Arms”, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States”? Since there can only be one clearly defined, concise and eternal definition for all of these things, it should be easy to do.
Cute question. Not relevant. Presiding officer has just as clear a definition while not as much case law. Pence WAS NOT the unitary executive of the Senate or the Congress assembled to consider electoral votes.
Years ago, I used to think Quayle was great. He was really just another Bushie Boy globalist puke. Spit and vomit on ‘em.
It is in the Constitution. One delegate from each State would decide, but Pence got paid and allowed Nancy to take over his role. Once that happened it was all over.
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