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AUKUS: Maintaining West's unity will 'require a lot of effort', German official says, as France rages over nuclear submarine deal
SKY News ^ | September 18, 2021 | by Philip Whiteside

Posted on 09/18/2021 7:03:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Maintaining unity between Western allies will "require a lot of effort" in light of an unfolding rift between France and members of a new security partnership, Germany's ambassador to the UK has said.

French President Emmanuel Macron has so far not commented directly, but on Friday a top French diplomat spoke anonymously of a "crisis" in relations with the US.

He said that for Paris "this is a strategic question concerning the very nature of the relationship between Europe and the United States about the Indo-Pacific strategy".

He added that Australia never mentioned to France its wish to shift to nuclear-powered submarines, including during a meeting between Mr Macron and Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

The French diplomat said that Mr Macron received a letter from Mr Morrison on Wednesday morning announcing the decision to cancel the submarine deal.

After the deal was announced, Mr Le Drian told franceinfo radio it was a "brutal, unilateral and unpredictable decision" reminiscent of the sort of actions Donald Trump would take.

He said: "I am angry and bitter. This isn't done between allies. It's a stab in the back. We created a relationship of trust with Australia, and that trust has been broken."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aukus; australia; biden; china; election2020; emmanuelmacron; europeanunion; failure; france; germany; philipwhiteside; scottmorrison; southchinasea; unitedkingdom; vietnam
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1 posted on 09/18/2021 7:03:24 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Maintaining unity between Western allies will "require a lot of effort"

The globalist corporate elite are now eating there own. But maintaining unity among the freedom loving people of the west is no problem.

We cheer Australians and Hungarians cheered Trump. We are all in this together against the scourge of modern western fascism.

2 posted on 09/18/2021 7:12:23 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No administration in the multiverse can be more inept and composed of more incompetent individuals than the Biden collection of talking *ssholes.

I hope to witness the prosecution and termination of all of them.

Yup, termination.


3 posted on 09/18/2021 7:18:03 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Maybe the only positive to come out of the Biden regime will be the shutting down of a totally obsolete NATO. I think Trump would have dramatically scaled back our unwanted presence in Europe had he not been robbed of a second term. I have not had a fear of a Russian blitzkrieg to the English Channel in decades.


4 posted on 09/18/2021 7:18:34 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So let’s make unity dependent on abortion, buggery, and mass immigration.


5 posted on 09/18/2021 7:20:30 AM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“After the deal was announced, Mr Le Drian told franceinfo radio it was a “brutal, unilateral and unpredictable decision” reminiscent of the sort of actions Donald Trump would take.”

Why didn’t he name a comparable action by Trump?

Because he can’t.


6 posted on 09/18/2021 7:20:53 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods ( comment might be sarcasm, or not. It depends. Often I'm not sure either.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

LOL. The French find out the difference between the spin they created when Macron tried to play games w/Potus & was exposed as a fool, and the reality of being screwed by duplicitous unprincipled, lowlifes like the Biden administration.


7 posted on 09/18/2021 7:25:59 AM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

The smear of Trump really irked me. Just another broad brush smear without ANY specifics or examples. Just like the MSM telling us every single day “Trump has told 10,000 lies” and never once naming one of them.


8 posted on 09/18/2021 7:27:11 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("If I’m going to get my political views from those who chase balls, I’ll ask my dog.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The world’s nations are now choosing up sides for
World War III, and our present administration and congress puts the Anglo-American side in great jeopardy.


9 posted on 09/18/2021 7:34:32 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This one is about the money.

France, and also Germany, have had national policies of promoting their companies, even when those companies are selling to bad national actors. The French built Saddam’s nuclear reactor at Osirak that the Israelis took out.

Their beef here is over the loss of a $90 B contract, aside from any engineering and strategic considerations.


10 posted on 09/18/2021 7:39:09 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (FJB)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

France rages over nuclear submarine deal which was a very bad deal for the Aussies to begin with, since the first subs would not be ready until 2054 ; worse, the Frogs proposed taking a nuclear sub design and dropping in a diesel engine.


11 posted on 09/18/2021 7:43:11 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: AndyJackson

Although I believe Australia and the US are going down the same bad road, if there was ONE country in the world I would share Nuclear Submarine technology with, it would be Australia. (and I am unsure even that is a good idea)

They have stood by our side from WWII on, even when others have deserted us or actively gone against us.

France is near the top of that list.


12 posted on 09/18/2021 7:47:35 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“reminiscent of the sort of actions Donald Trump would take.”

Wrong, Frenchie, Reminiscent of the sort of actions that the liars in the media and the Democrat party told you that Donald Trump would take but that he never did.


13 posted on 09/18/2021 7:48:40 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: hardspunned
Is this the same Western Europe that for the bulk of the Cold War refused to spend the minimum on defense and instead relied upon our nuclear umbrella for protection?

And now they start questioning unity????

14 posted on 09/18/2021 7:55:32 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Australia could not hold up against Chinese invasion(not that that is likely), but its nuclear subs could shut down Chinese exports to North and South America.

The way to rein in China is through trade restrictions and replacing Chinese production with domestic or other Asian country production.

Military blocking of Chinese expansionism is not very practical due to its industrial might and willingness to sustain troop losses.


15 posted on 09/18/2021 7:55:42 AM PDT by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: Brian Griffin

On the auto parts side, I’m seeing a lot of stuff that used to come out of China is now from Indonesia, Vietnam, or India.


16 posted on 09/18/2021 7:57:13 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: PIF

Australia insisted on diesel subs in the first place, and for whatever reason they chose the French proposal over German and Japanese subs that were designed around diesel from the start.


17 posted on 09/18/2021 7:57:48 AM PDT by fluorescence
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The French appear to be taking this personally.

It’s not personal, it’s business


18 posted on 09/18/2021 7:58:19 AM PDT by billyboy15
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To: fatman6502002

Once all the Germans were warlike and mean
But that couldn’t happen again
We taught them a lesson in 1918
And they’ve hardly bothered us since then


19 posted on 09/18/2021 8:01:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: fluorescence

Australia wanted a gas sub that got the performance of a ssn. Was never going to happen and geopolitical reality finally caught up with them. There were groups in Australia including Tony Abbott that wanted nuclear from day one.

That said, not telling France was a dick move but what can we expect from the resident.


20 posted on 09/18/2021 8:06:18 AM PDT by Raymann
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