Posted on 09/05/2021 9:00:09 AM PDT by george76
It took Edward Snowden and other whistleblowers to reveal the staggering extent of the government’s spying on its own people as institutional checks failed..
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Panic made us politically vulnerable... That vulnerability was exploited by our own government to entitle itself to radically expanded powers that had for decades been out of reach.
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The Patriot Act, which swatted away longstanding rules preventing the state from monitoring US citizens without “probable cause”, was passed .. lightning-fast ... granting domestic law enforcement agencies sweeping new powers.
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green light for the FBI and CIA to carry out “roving wiretaps” where agents could follow communications trails between phones and computers.
It eviscerated the firewall .. greatly boosted the power of the FBI to obtain personal customer records of Americans from phone companies, banks and internet providers without court approval
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Total information awareness was the brainchild of John Poindexter, a disgraced former naval officer
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No warrants would be sought. They would just do it, irrespective of laws or constitutional niceties.
“We must put introduction of new technology on a wartime basis,” Poindexter said. Weeks later he managed to sell the idea to the Pentagon in return for a $200m budget.
The NSA wasn’t far behind. The agency was busy devising Stellar Wind, its warrantless surveillance system
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NSA, Michael Hayden, had taken a “tactical decision” to begin snooping on the digital communications of people based in the US. From now on, the NSA granted itself the power to surveil any American on US soil .. – no warrant needed.
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“They essentially claimed wartime authority to engage in domestic surveillance that is criminal under statutory law ...
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They had it all ready.. This is what the NSA had long wanted
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are we still in the dark?
(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...
Bush’s fault.
“They are like dogs who the deep state and media have in a constant state of agitation and anxiety.”
So, I guess they will be driven crazy (become mad dogs) or bite back.
I’d like a yes or no answer before entertaining your questions.
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Is that the Resolute desk, in the Orriface Office, behind him?
What is Bush’s fault?
The surveillance state.
Okay.
The answer is ‘no’.
I have to laugh at the irony. A UK Paper, based on one of the most heavily surveilled countries in the world, is gasing on about the “US Surveliance State”
And it is sobering to think about the changes in technology, which has made it easier to gather information about all of us. We all leave a footprint on the internet, and through the cellular phones most of us have nowadays.
It wasn’t panic. Panic is the tool of control. I don’t honestly believe there are too many people out there, unless they are liberal voters, that think the US is any different in how they control the citizens than any other nation.
The object of the game for the government is to keep control so they can be above the common citizen. And that was one of the major changes in 2017 by Trump...worrying about the people’s needs, party be damned.
I have to admit that was for many years being done covertly, and is slowly coming out of the shadows as the major parties, and I mean both, are getting more open with their irregularities as the courts and the media continue to protect them. Only difference is now, they need protection from their own because there is a face attached to the things being done.
We know they wiretap. We have every reason to attach accidental deaths to on purpose ones, and to people that “could” be responsible. We are learning about the lawless actions of people like election fraud, plane, car crashes and discharged weapon accidents. We are learning more and more about so called terrorist groups and how they are defined and used. We also are finally beginning to show some spine by questioning the use of Covid to “scare” people into more than questionable action destroying the economy and putting the public under the thumb of “the machine.” And they still are not admitting how it got here and where it came from definingly.
Is the public that stupid? Joe Biden far surpassed the winners tally setting a new record with more than 81,284,000 votes (51.3% of the total) in the 2020 election. But President Donald Trump also exceeded Mr. Obama’s record, with over 74,221,000 votes (46.9%). And they had every idea what they were getting when they pushed the button. You guess about the voters’ stupidity (or greed). Were you aware at the time of the election, there were only 12.8 million people that did not have a record of voting in the election? I’ll bet you there were more than that that actually did not vote from the 168.3 million total.
https://www.census.gov/topics/public-sector/voting.html
Voting and Registration in the Election of November 2020: Table 2
But that war is behind the smoke and mirrors with the Afghanistan thing.
We just had a president that was unveiling the trash in government calling it the swamp, and he didn’t care which part of the bog it was in whether it be DNC, GOP, or foreign interaction. And you see what he got when the “machine” brought it’s guns, the media, to bear on his broadside. And try as they might using a majority in the house and the media, they couldn’t get Trump found guilty of anything to remove him from office. It was a show like no other. But it had an six year run as they are finally running out of ways to blame him as the libs continue to fail at their criminality.
Naw, it’s not panic. It’s stupidity, greed of the fat and sassy, and people not wishing to be honest about what is happening so the gifts just keep coming (occasionally) and are getting more and more expensive. And it is in lives as much as money. We just brought back 15 more marines. How many more have to die because Obama increased the manning and Biden tried to keep it there? And it’s only beginning.
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So you don’t think it’s a false flag then. Because to be a false flag then Muslim terrorists couldn’t be involved.
Here’s that compliment paid to the CCP by the Biden campaign for bringing in the virus which they admitted really helped fix it to get Biden elected http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/39ked 40857/posts
how 9/11 made the US surveillance state
***At the time there were a bunch of fearmongering statists right here on Free Republic pushing that agenda. Where are they now?
I would not say muslim terrorists were not involved, only that if they were, it would be peripheral in nature.
The main proponent of the 911 FF was the Deep State. To start a more-or-less permanent rationale for the CIA to be in Afghanistan, from which to funnel drugs, arms and human trafficking. Plus, as I stated, stop NESARA dead in its tracks. Plus, instill terrorist fear in the American public and pave the way for another statist entity, the TSA.
That’s the thing about statists... they never seem to be around for the consequences of statist actions.
REPEAL THE PATRIOT ACT NOW!
IT IS A LOT OF THINGS BUT IT IS NOT PATRIOTIC NOR IS IT CONSTITUJTIONAL!
Fair enough. Honest at least. That’s too much tinfoil to wrap around my head but everyone has an opinion I guess.
Now I’ll answer yours.
“You believe the MSM? You believe the government? Is that what you mean?“
I take all information and always consider the source. I take nothing for granted. I know the MSM crafts narratives. They’re way too obvious to think otherwise. But I’m not much of a conspiracy hound to buy into many of them.
It’s one thing to think that the powers to be basically let no crisis go to waste on 9/11, but I think it’s several bridges too far to go full Rosie O’Donnell and think it was preplanned by the government. Furthermore that view fully discounts the very real threat of Islamic terrorism which is a fact of life today.
Have you checked into the ins and outs of Operation Mockingbird? It's a story that some think of "conspiracy", yet, it is easily documented - the Church Committee (1974). It is supposedly a successor to Operation Paperclip, after WW2.
If you have/get your head around Op. Mockingbird, then the lies that goes on in the media is not much of a stretch.
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