Posted on 09/03/2021 7:52:10 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
They know plenty.
But they won’t use proven drugs that have no monetary benefit to them, their hospital administrators, or Big Pharma.
They all have blood on their hands!
I have been giving baricitinib for the last several weeks. Does very little. More wishful thinking from people who do not treat this disease everyday. It is an IL - 6 inhibitor on an analogue basis with tolciluzimab. Generally not helpful.
HCQ is even less useful than baricitinib
For get HCQ, get regeneron — this is the drug that was given to trump that he said made him feel like superman.
India basically dropped HCQ for Ivermectin.
Nice to see you suggest alternative treatment rather than straight up vax.
I believe the 5% that would be saved, disagree with you.
You’re on the side that has done all wild and crazy things up to destroying the economy for tens of millions of people, and all sorts of insane non-working things like all kinds of ineffective masks that do zip to reduce deaths and infections, yet we find something that saves 5% of folks with life-threatening cases and you crap all over it.
There it is folks. Theres that branch covidian logic at work. I guess when something works even a bit, and its not the death shots or whatever fauxci spews out, its no good.
Thanks for posting that about the Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine (PCV13). Interestingly, I had Pneumovax-23 which has shown no effect on COVID, then I had Prevnar 13 (which is a PCV13), followed by a second shot of Pneumovax-23. I’m not sure how that happened. Anyway, that’s really good news from the Kaiser Permanente study: Among adults ages 65 years old and older, those who received the pneumonia vaccine PCV13 had:
• 35% lower incidence of COVID-19 diagnosis
• 32% lower incidence of COVID-19 hospitalization
• 32% lower incidence of COVID-19 death
Those are huge reductions!
Between the COVID vax, the PCV13, and my supplant & vitamin regimen, I should be in good shape. Now if I could only turn back the clock (turned 70 a few weeks back).
Well that certainly covers a lot of territory.
I am aware of all the alternatives.
HCQ is worthless as a treatement
Ivermectin is equally as worthless and delays people from getting something that works
If early use probably at best modest help as to the ivermectin
Monoclonal antibodies are nothing short of spectacular but must be administered early. Delaying this treatment in the hopes of getting horse paste or an actual human prescription reduces precious times for something that works
As for Phase III illness (inflammatory state) nothing works with any great results. People are given Dexamethasone, I have been using some rather large doses with marginal effect, Tolciluzimab had some mild promise and probably kept a few who were on the cliff from falling off of it. Baricitinib I have seen little positive results.
To the greater question, there are alternative treatments. What works (monoclonals, but get them early) are in my judgment the way to stop this. But treatments are NOT the same as prevention. As FLCCC states -> treatment methodology and vaccines work hand in hand.
I do NOT think there should ever be a mandatory vaccine — however, the fact that we actually have a treatment should be used and spoken about daily. As one of our fellow Freeper says — check the restrictions in your neck of the woods and be ready to act swiftly. In my neck of the woods it is incredibly easy to procure.
I think given the data that there are many more infections than reported plus delta we are close to herd immunity. I think the vaccines have closed the time to get there.
And contrary to what several say, there is still minimal vaccinated hosts in the hospital and progression to critical illness is very rare in our region. I choose to believe that I see everyday in a fairly large population. And I think we should be just about done with this once delta blows through.
Fauci is still an idiot. He and Biden are the senile twins in my estimation.
I’ve told you not to reply to me, gas_bag.
My apologies
The magic word is regeneron.
Zinc and a zinc ionophore can’t hurt either...
Thank goodness there are plenty of white mice :-)
Be sure to try to kill whatever covid you bring home in your nose and mouth to lessen your viral load.
I cannot stand nasal irrigation. Some ENTs recommend johnson baby shampoo irrigation after surgery etc.
Not even the threat of covid can get me to do it.
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| Tell your doctor if you have ever had:.................................................. ............................................. Well that certainly covers a lot of territory. |
Stop taking baricitinib and get emergency medical help if you have signs of an allergic reaction: hives; difficult breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat.
You may get infections more easily, even serious or fatal infections. Call your doctor right away if you have signs of infection such as:
fever, chills, sweating;
skin sores;
tiredness, muscle pain;
increased urination, pain or burning when you urinate;
stomach pain, diarrhea, weight loss; or
cough, shortness of breath, coughing up pink or red mucus.
Further doses may be delayed until your infection clears up.
Also call your doctor at once if you have:
symptoms of herpes virus--flu-like symptoms, cold sores around your mouth, numbness, tingling, itching, burning pain, painful skin rash or blisters;
signs of a blood clot in the lung--chest pain, sudden cough, wheezing, rapid breathing, coughing up blood;
signs of a blood clot in your leg--swelling, pain, warmth, or redness in an arm or leg;
signs of perforation (a hole or tear) in your stomach or intestines--fever, ongoing stomach pain, change in bowel habits; or
signs of tuberculosis: fever, cough, night sweats, loss of appetite, weight loss, and feeling very tired.
Common side effects may include:
herpes symptoms;
nausea; or
cold symptoms such as stuffy nose, sneezing, sore throat.
This is not a complete list of side effects and others may occur. Call your doctor for medical advice about side effects. You may report side effects to FDA at 1-800-FDA-1088.
Shut up. The media will have no choice but to demonize this drug now. Nothing that protects the health of folks, other than the vax, can possibly be good.
"Crucially, the patients who benefitted the most from the drug were the most severely ill, including those on a bipap machine to help them breathe or high flow oxygen. In these more severely ill patients, the researchers found that 1 in 9 patients were saved who would have otherwise died."Medications for the end-stage of the disease have been few and far between. This could be significant for the severely ill patients in ICU.
Cool!! I’ve had PCV13 and geriatric Flu vaccine (I guess “geriatric” means high-dose). Just got my “geriatric” flu shot today.
Fauci often contradicts his prior published work...
I say again, if anyone is taking the various prophylactics to ward off covid DO NOT make the mistake of depending on it if symptoms develop.
When you show any signs of illness seek proper medical help immediately and insist on monoclonal antibody infusion!
You can find out if it is readily available near you, and do ask your physician about the particulars...
Antibody infusion will NOT give long-term immunity like you gain from having covid and surviving it...but it CAN save you!
I’ve been using Povidone-Iodine (”Betadine”) mouthwash / gargle together with Vicks “First Defense” nasal spray whenever I get the slightest hint of a sore throat. So far, none of my sore throats have progressed to colds (which is great for me because my colds often progress to bronchitis).
I should probably begin using the gargle and nasal spray more often — as you say, whenever I get home.
The very thought of baby shampoo of the old schnozzola gives me the willies.
I remember that....
I also remember President Trump said it would be available to everyone.
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