Posted on 09/03/2021 5:13:29 AM PDT by george76
Top media personality slams disregard for Israeli study showing vaccinated more likely to be infected than those with natural antibodies..
Israelis are frustrated by the fact that their nation has one of the highest COVID-19 vacation rates (over 60 percent are fully vaccinated, and 25 percent have already had a booster), and yet is also leading the world in daily rate of new infections.
Israel has been logging over 10,000 new infections daily this week, with a positive test rate of around 7%. Many countries no longer consider Israel to be “green” on the COVID scale. By comparison, the United States has been registering about half the number of new daily infections per capita (around 900 per million citizens for Israel, just 450 per million for the US).
A new study suggests that Israel’s high vaccination rate could be at least partially to blame for the current spike in coronavirus infections.
The study was carried out last month by Israel’s Maccabi Healthcare Services (one of the local HMOs), and the results were featured in the leading scientific journals Science and Nature. (See: Why is Israel Still Giving COVID Boosters if the WHO Said to Stop?) But it really garnered attention on social media this week when veteran Israeli journalist and Channel 13 News anchor Oshrat Kotler expressed her disapproval over the findings not being widely reported in Israel.
“How sad that I had to read about this important Israeli research on an American news site,” Kotler wrote on Facebook. The journalist added that she had contacted Maccabi and confirmed the veracity of the headline she had read, which asserted, based on the Maccabi study, that “vaccinated individuals are 13 times more likely to be infected by the Delta variant than those with natural antibodies.”
Indeed, the majority of the nearly 700 Israelis currently hospitalized due to COVID-19 are fully vaccinated against that virus, and vaccinated individuals make up a large percentage, if not a majority of those testing positive every day.
In other words, the “vaccine” is not preventing either infection or transmission, though in Israel it did lower those numbers, at least for a couple of months. It must also be noted that the authors of the Science article and most of the experts they cited did encourage inoculation given that the shots produced by Pfizer, Moderna and others are highly effective in preventing serious illness. Just not as effective as naturally-produced antibodies that come from being infected. This is especially true as the virus mutates.
This again raises the question of whether or not Israel and other nations are being too aggressive in trying to control a virus that nearly all experts agree isn’t going away no matter how many booster shots we receive. If our own bodies’ immune systems are more effective in protecting us against COVID-19, why not let them do their job?
Again, even those leaning toward that line of thinking aren’t saying the vaccine shouldn’t be used. There are sectors of society that are at greater risk of serious illness and complications, and they should be inoculated. At the same time, many are arguing, and Kotler now seems to be among them, that the majority of the population should get on with life, let the virus run its course, and before long a natural “herd immunity” will develop.
“The only conclusion that can be drawn from this study is that we [Israel] need to reevaluate our course of action,” wrote Kotler. “My own conclusion is that if we don’t belong to one of the at-risk sectors of the population, then we should be very careful about this problematic vaccine.”
Kotler stressed firmly that she is not an anti-vaxxer, but insisted that when it comes to the COVID vaccine, the public “has been deceived.”
But, of course, that’s a policy no politician is going to be able to adopt so long as Kotler’s colleagues in the mainstream media are hyping COVID-19 as the greatest threat to mankind.
From the article;
“Indeed, the majority of the nearly 700 Israelis currently hospitalized due to COVID-19 are fully vaccinated against that virus, and vaccinated individuals make up a large percentage, if not a majority of those testing positive every day.”
From the UK;
“Data suggest that although COVID-19 is usually milder if contracted after vaccination than in unvaccinated individuals, mortality remains high in hospitalised individuals: data from the International Severe Acute Respiratory and Emerging Infection Consortium have shown a mortality of 27·0% (400 of 1482 died) in individuals hospitalised with COVID-19 in the UK more than 21 days after vaccination, similar to mortality rates observed during the first wave (March–April, 2020).”
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext#seccestitle80
Israel and the UK are a bellweather of what’s coming to the USA. Here’s a bunch of hospital dashboards showing vaccinated vs unvaccinated percentages I compiled yesterday. I’m sure there are many more out there. If you click the links you will see some vaccinated pergentages have went up since I posted it. (It was in response to gas_dr saying 98% of covid hospital patients are unvaccinated.)
17% vaccinated 87% unvaccinated
https://www.smh.com/Home/News-Events/Release/coronavirus-daily-news-update
12% vaccinated 88% unvaccinated
https://www.utmedicalcenter.org/
14% vaccinated 84% unvaccinated
https://www.covenanthealth.com/covid-19-dashboard/
20% vaccinated 80% unvaccinated
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/health/2021/08/27/unvaccinated-iowans-account-most-hospitalized-covid-patients-breakthrough-cases-older-delta-variant/5618775001/
13% vaccinated 87% unvaccinated
https://www.tmh.org/coronavirus/dashboard
18.5% vaccinated 81.5% unvaccinated
https://www.flaglerhealth.org/covid-19-information/
12.5% vaccinated 87.5% unvaccinated
https://www.facebook.com/WKHealthSystem/
20% vaccinated 80% unvaccinated
https://carle.org/Home/COVID-19-Resources/Carle-Health-COVID-Numbers
19% vaccinated 81% unvaccinated
https://www.choosememorial.org/COVID19
22.9% vaccinated 77.1% unvaccinated
https://www.facebook.com/OSFHealthCare/photos/a.489674037712381/4734159893263753/?__tn__=%2CO*F
To balance with good news FL deaths have plummeted, because of DeSantis’s aggressive push for monoclonal antibody treatments. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/#graph-deaths-daily
It’s the test.
The “vaccines” are working.
They are a cure for Wuhan flu hysteria, not a vaccine for the flu.
Hysteria sufferers who get the vaccine overcome their hysteria, drop their precautions and get the flu.
The success of the vaccinations is measured by the number of vaccinated who get the flu.
Herd immunity can be delayed but not avoided.
Is there anyone who believes that now, at least TWO YEARS into a pandemic, there is anyone on the planet who hasn't been exposed to COVID? Forget two years, the virus raced through the world in two weeks.
Since the virus has had two years to expose EVERYONE, the "unvaccinated" either overcame it (at a 99.98-99.99% rate) or died. That leaves those who took the Jim Jones Jab which has been given to people who already defeated COVID and some of them get sick again because the "vaccine" attacks the recipient and creates new strains.
The reason the "vaccine" mandates don't allow for existing immunity is because it exposes the fraud. The perpetrators of this crime against humanity are trying to destroy evidence by injecting everyone so that no one can differentiate what was caused by the virus and what was caused by the Jim Jones Jab. Their goal is to inject everyone and then blame the virus for all the deaths and health complications.
Israel is using the Pfizer vaccine. They were fine until the delta variant. But it's protecting against severe disease so far.
I posted the headline of this article in the 101.5 NJ News YouTube comment section and it was immediately deleted by them. So now the so-called conservative leaning radio station is censoring reports from CDC and VAERS? How about that.
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/official-u-s-government-stats-on-covid-vaccines-13627-deaths-2826646-injuries-1429-fetal-deaths-in-pregnant-women/
You can isolate a disease with quarantines if the numbers are few. They are not few. This disease is with mankind forever. It is mutating to a more contagious but less virulent form at a rapid rate just like the human cold. It will burn itself out by mutations and just become another variety of cold.
Treat the sick with ivermectin and open up society again. Ivermectin works.
In the words of that great philosopher, POGO in the funny papers, “We have meet the enemy and he is us.”
Gee. What makes them think that?
Are they still using the PCR test that the CDC said is not accurate?
“But it’s protecting against severe disease so far.”
As time passes that becomes less and less true. Read post 21.
How many deaths?
george76 wrote: “Israel shows natural immunity to SARS CoV2 is FAR superior to the artificial kind - vaccinated people were 13x as likely to be infected and 27x to have symptomatic infections”
That isn’t what the article said. It referred to breakthrough infections, not total infections.
zek157 wrote: “This data should be disconcerting.”
Not really, this is the important part: “the Ministry of Health to respond with the following statement:”
“There is a fundamentally incorrect analysis of the Maccabi study spreading on the internet. It is important for us to clarify to the public – the risk of an unvaccinated person getting Corona is 20 times greater than that of a vaccinated person!”
That’s a fine example of thinking.
Thanks.
My question is..
How is the transportation/ handling of the vaccine being looked at? Is the vaccine mfgr.ed in Israel or imported?
Pfizer’s .esp has to be kept at extreme low temperature. If the temperature isn’t maintained does it lose it’s efficacy?
Opens up the possibility of sabotage or poor handling.
“The vaccines were introduced last November“
Incorrect. Anything close to a critical mass wasn’t reached until late Jan or Feb, way after the cases and hospitalizations were dropping like a rock.
We knew people would say this, and we will not let this “disinformation” go unopposed, ever.
Sorry, I’m not criticizing you at all - I don’t even think this was your main point. You raise many good questions - the ones the “science” can no longer answer because this potion was all rushed to get into everyone’s arms FAST for some demonic reason.
” If you click the links you will see some vaccinated pergentages have went up since I posted it. (It was in response to gas_dr saying 98% of covid hospital patients are unvaccinated.)”
If you had run the same reports for Israel in March when they had a vax rate of 55% you would probably see the same thing as your links show. Run that report today for Israel when 80% of the cases are vaxed and it is a whole different story.
The virus has a life of its own and vaccination is making it worse — not better. That’s what Israel and especially Sweden are telling us. Sweden’s vax rate is 65% and they ARE NOT seeing a surge and, in fact, are telling the Israelites to just STAY AWAY. Sweden doesn’t want their crazy vax system showing up there.
Run your same report for the U.S. in November and it will be a whole different story. The media and politicians are feeding us a load of big-time BS!!
No-Lockdown Sweden Bans Travel from Super-Vaxxed Israel over COVID Spikes
https://bit.ly/3BGafjm
Some crazyassed plandemic we’ve got here.
Looks more like a biological war game made real where both the disease and the “cure” are the first two parts of a multi-stage bio-weapon of mass destruction.
You know how since the 60s they’ve been saying the world is over-populated, right?
Well, now they can finally do something about that inconvenient people problem, the problem of too many inconvenient people.
Nope nearly 100% Pfizer and now some Moderna.
Too many are stuck staring at tiny bushes so long they get crosseyed and think the tiny bush they see is the whole forest.
When you step back and look at the forest it’s pretty scary. They are still doubling down, let’s watch how long that continues. At some point it will be; “it was at that point they realized they had seriously f-ed up”. That should be the assessment right now.
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