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Albany Med study finds tests can detect dead virus fragments
Albany Times Union Newspapers ^ | 8/31/2021 | Bethany Bump

Posted on 09/01/2021 6:01:08 AM PDT by 1Old Pro

Researchers wanted to know why some hospitalized patients were still testing positive long after recovery

ALBANY — A new study out of Albany Medical Center and Albany Medical College found that the standard test used to diagnose COVID-19 is sensitive enough to detect the coronavirus for days and even weeks after it’s no longer infectious.

The study, which looked at a small sample of 14 Albany Med patients being treated for COVID-19, set out to determine why some were still testing positive for the virus long after they had recovered from their infections. Doctors theorized that the standard test used to diagnose COVID-19 — a nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT) — was perhaps too sensitive and was picking up on leftover genetic material from the virus.

“As we’ve seen here, that genetic material may not actually be infectious virus,” said Dennis Metzger, professor and chair of Albany Medical College’s department of immunology and microbial disease, and a lead author on the study. "It could just be leftover from a previous infection.”

The question was of immediate interest to the hospital. Since last May, state regulations have prohibited hospitals from discharging patients into nursing homes until they test negative for COVID-19. While the rule has offered peace of mind to many, hospital leaders have argued it keeps some patients unnecessarily hospitalized.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: falsepositives
“The implications are perhaps the PCR tests are giving us some false positive results because they’re too sensitive,” Metzger said of polymerase chain reaction tests, the most commonly used NAAT test. “We’re erring on the side of caution and, in many cases, perhaps too much.”

Lots of bad data causing people who blindly follow the "science" to propose poor policy.

1 posted on 09/01/2021 6:01:08 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
Doctors theorized that the standard test used to diagnose COVID-19 — a nucleic acid amplification test (NAAT) — was perhaps too sensitive and was picking up on leftover genetic material from the virus.

Is this the academic way of saying the tests are junk?

2 posted on 09/01/2021 6:14:27 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: 1Old Pro

At one point they were running upwards of 40 replication cycles, when you never go above 25 for this very reason. Not to mention pcr cannot tell you if the fragment is live or dead.

The pcr test is pivotal in the scam they are running. You never test for infection with a pcr test.


3 posted on 09/01/2021 6:14:31 AM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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To: AnglePark
Is this the academic way of saying the tests are junk?

Yes, which tells me the CDC data is Garbage In and Garbage Out.

4 posted on 09/01/2021 6:19:08 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: walkingdead

Kari Mullis, who received a Nobel Prize for inventing the polymerase chain reaction, said it should NEVER be used for diagnostic purposes.

He also despised Fauci as a con-man.

PS - He was Arkancided a while back.


5 posted on 09/01/2021 6:22:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: walkingdead
The pcr test is pivotal in the scam they are running. You never test for infection with a pcr test.

One would think this would be quite clear in the scientific community.

6 posted on 09/01/2021 6:24:17 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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Has there ever before been a disease for which the number of infected people could be increased or decreased at the will of the “science”? That is, of the politicians in charge.

We would have learned a lot about the risks of COVID-19 from the beginning of the use of the PCR test if statistics on the number of amplification cycles needed before tests showed a positive had been publicized. It is possible that where an extremely large number of amplifications was used, far more people were determined to be positive than people who were actually ever sick with symptoms. Every person who got a positive reading should have been told the cycle threshold at which their sample showed a positive.

Instead, most people have no idea that there is a possibility of a very large threshold being used which probably gives a false positive. I wonder if this data was even determined/retained so that scientists could actually study this in the future. Getting a positive reading caused people great inconvenience, to say the least.

A false positive cannot provide antibodies which would give later immune protection. Perhaps this is one reason why there is such a push to vaccinate even people who have “had“ (tested positive) COVID-19. Maybe they never had the disease at all. Even so, they may have had to quarantine, shut down a school or a business, not be able to get on an airplane, etc. due to their positive test.

7 posted on 09/01/2021 6:30:03 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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I knew that, I saw that, and could have told them that. And I’m not a doctor.


8 posted on 09/01/2021 6:41:03 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Trump: Make America Great Again. biden: Make Taliban Great Again. (Click on my user name))
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To: AnglePark

The tests have always been the key to the Fauci Fortune. These tests and lockdowns are key to economic collapse.


9 posted on 09/01/2021 6:42:11 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: Freee-dame

Yep, what a mess. Biden will probably claim he was a huge success in bungling this data.


10 posted on 09/01/2021 6:42:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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Yep, what a mess. Biden will probably claim he was a huge success in bungling this data.

Well ... Duh. Obviously it's Trump's fault.

11 posted on 09/01/2021 6:49:42 AM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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This is saying over 71% of the PCR tests given after the first days in the hospitals are giving “false positives.”

This can also be applied, albeit likely less so, to persons not in the hospital.

When the test is calibrated for the wrong thing, it’s wrong for all.


12 posted on 09/01/2021 7:03:23 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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That’s why scientists, doctors and “experts” should be consulted and valued for their expertise, their knowledge. These people should never, ever be put in charge of public policy as their wisdom is no better — and in many instances, worse — than anyone else’s. We are living through the horrible — though completely predictable (from experience) — results of doing just that.


13 posted on 09/01/2021 7:06:12 AM PDT by glennaro (Dennis Prager: "Until it's safe" means "Never")
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These people should never, ever be put in charge of public policy

Yes, and neither should Leftists or communists.

14 posted on 09/01/2021 7:08:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: 1Old Pro

They teach group think, not science, to new scientists.


15 posted on 09/01/2021 7:18:18 AM PDT by Paperpusher
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Suuure, because we've yet had a 100% no fail test. No longer infectious... within the parameters, you mean.

16 posted on 09/01/2021 8:38:01 AM PDT by bgill (.Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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