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Marine who blasted Afghan withdrawal forced to undergo mental health check [ Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller ]
nypost ^ | August 31, 2021 | Yaron Steinbuch

Posted on 08/31/2021 7:20:35 AM PDT by MarvinStinson

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To: MarvinStinson

This rotten government is slowly moving along in that direction!


81 posted on 08/31/2021 9:30:32 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Terabitten

I hope there may be something to what you say. However, at this juncture, there does not seem to be a good way to extricate himself from this, should he change his mind after a cooling-off period. To do what he did certainly indicates a highly emotional state of mind.


82 posted on 08/31/2021 9:39:22 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks Marv.

83 posted on 08/31/2021 9:39:35 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: MarvinStinson

He, instead, resigned his commission!


84 posted on 08/31/2021 9:40:04 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (BOYCOTT The NFL, MLB, NBA, NASCAR & Faux Snooze! Molon Labe! Oathkeeper! )
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To: MarvinStinson

I thought I’d call him and check, which I did. That’s taken me over an hour of the time since I saw your questioning response.

He’s in Georgia doing pretty well, lucid and talkative as can be—thankfully! That took some period of recovery, however, after his year in the “care” of people with prosecutorial immunity, as people like Capitol Police Lt Michael L. Byrd, Harry has had.


85 posted on 08/31/2021 9:41:46 AM PDT by rx (Truth will out!)
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To: nikos1121

Well, to be honest, he did seem a bit over the top.

How so? If this marine accidentally shot and killed a civilian, he would be court marshalled in 10 mins. You know why? Low level grunts have no power. His higher ups just re-created the Afghanistan version of the Killing Fields, left behind $53 billion dollars in high tech milatary equipmen, left 100’s of Americans behind and are responsible for 18 dead marines and a drone strike they said was to thwart a suicide bombing, but instead killed10 innocent people. They called him dishonorable after 17 years of service for telling the truth and asking for account ability Please enlighten me when all he asks for is accountability from his chain of command why thats over the top?


86 posted on 08/31/2021 9:44:08 AM PDT by The MAGA-Deplorian (Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less)
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To: nikos1121
"Well, to be honest, he did seem a bit over the top."

If that's the case. Then the Marine Corps better do a psychiatric evaluation on every one of his superiors who signed his performance evaluations over the past 17 years.

87 posted on 08/31/2021 9:47:30 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Terabitten

“Resigned his commission/Resignation” can mean a number of different things depending on the situation.

I’m thinking that what is actually happening here is “request retirement in lieu of courts martial.” This is an option extended to retirement eligible officers (Major and above) in certain cases to resolve the matter quickly and avoid/mute ongoing controversy. IIRC, it is an pre-trial offer of settlement made by the defendant to the convening authority. It is case specific and usually not available in cases involving alleged true criminal conduct (murder, rape, treason, etc.). However, it is tailor-made for a misconduct-type case like this one where the offense is disrespect (UCMJ, Articles 88 and 89). Here is an article explaining it in more detail:

http://www.usmilitarylawyer.com/military-legal-discharges.asp

Note that this is an administrative action so the totality of the service member’s record will be used to characterize the type of discharge. Once you are promoted to Major, you are “guaranteed” to retire (assuming continued honorable service) and changes in the retirement system make it possible to retire with less than 20 years service. So, it is probably unlikely he would “lose” his retirement. However, he could be retired as a Major (instead of Lieutenant Colonel) because he didn’t complete 20 years. That would be the “official reason” because this is an administrative action, not a punitive one. Sure.

As for the mental evaluation, this may be a head butting contest between a couple of strong willed officers. The colonel (his immediate boss) would probably love for him to stop making statements in the social media/press mainly because of the fact that it is provoking the convening authority (and the upper level bosses).

As noted earlier and in the article, it is the convening authority that has to approve the request and order the charges dropped. However, continued issuance of statements is like poking the bear daring it to respond. If this matter goes to trial, all of his words will be used as evidence to prove disrespect and, when he is convicted, he will lose everything. Given this, the results of a mental evaluation may help the defense or it might provide further evidence for the prosecution.

However, his most recent statement had a threatening undertone implying some sort of broader consensus to take down the establishment. It’s probably just bombast and hyperbola. But, assuming he has been warned about making further statements, there may be an emergent behavioral problem as well. Probably best to bring him in and talk things over.

Hopefully, it will at least get him out of the glare of publicity for a day or two, and allow him to reflect on how his statements are being perceived and what his actions are doing on a personal level to himself and especially to the future of his family and his post-Marine Corps life.

He’s already paying a lot to make his point and earn his 15 minutes of fame. How much more?


88 posted on 08/31/2021 10:31:03 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow. )
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To: MarvinStinson

Page out of the Soviet Union...

No surprise...
Lots worse to come...


89 posted on 08/31/2021 10:34:21 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: SgtHooper

You sound like a pension slut too. Ugh..


91 posted on 08/31/2021 11:59:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Captain Rhino

God you money grubbing pension sluts are killing me....


92 posted on 08/31/2021 12:00:25 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Starboard
A lot of All people in the government value their job security and benefits above all else.

Fixed.

93 posted on 08/31/2021 12:08:25 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: MarvinStinson

Bookmark


94 posted on 08/31/2021 12:09:19 PM PDT by Chgogal (#GulagNancy is going all Cuba on Trump Supporters. #Biden lost The War on Terror.)
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To: nikos1121
Well, to be honest, he did seem a bit over the top

IS THAT YOU KAREN?

95 posted on 08/31/2021 12:27:41 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: MarvinStinson

Very Maoistic and Soviet. The truth tellers are crazy!!! So, disappear them and lock ‘em up!


96 posted on 08/31/2021 12:28:29 PM PDT by myerson
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To: MarvinStinson

He posted on his LinkedIn page that he went because he was ordered to and it was a nothing burger. Of course, the leftist, democrat taliban party media will never report that fact.


97 posted on 08/31/2021 4:11:43 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Terabitten
"Scheller is resigning his commission and will get nothing."

He'll get to retain his integrity and honor.

98 posted on 08/31/2021 4:34:14 PM PDT by kanawa ((Securing the 2022/2024 elections is of paramount importance.))
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