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NYPD is giving new recruits guns that are easier to fire in a bid to improve accuracy after missing targets on half of all fired shots last year
Daily Mail ^

Posted on 08/25/2021 5:56:02 PM PDT by algore

The NYPD is set to hand guns that are easier to shoot to its new recruits as the force looks to improve the accuracy of its officers.

The force claims that the move, which would mean less pressure is required to pull the trigger, is supported by their data, the NY Daily News reports.

According to their data, the NYPD said officers missed half of the 256 shots they fired during 26 separate incidents.

'As we're training them we're assessing them and we can also follow them throughout their careers. We didn't want to go so large. We know this is a very sensitive topic and we wanted to phase it in slowly.'

The first NYPD recruits trained with the easier-firing weapons will graduate in October, and Larin said that officers who hit their targets will fire fewer numbers of bullets.

The new weapons were tested at Rodman's Neck in the Bronx, and recruits firing the new weapons had an average score of 93.7, as opposed to those firing the traditional 12-pound weapons who achieved a score of 88.7.

While 129 officers on the street using the new weapons had also scored higher accuracy ratings.

In recent years, other police departments have equipped officers with handguns featuring a lighter trigger pull.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; newyork; police; shooting; target
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1 posted on 08/25/2021 5:56:02 PM PDT by algore
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To: algore

12# trigger?

That’s ridiculous, the original Glock trigger is bad enough, they doubled it?


2 posted on 08/25/2021 5:58:45 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: algore

Give them western type like McCloud used.


3 posted on 08/25/2021 5:59:50 PM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
 
 
Must be the NY #2 (Orange) trigger, then.
 
 

4 posted on 08/25/2021 6:03:03 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

12 lb trigger!

Sounds like the trigger on my S&W Sigma 40 cal.

BUT SERIOUSLY, what an incredibly uninformative article this is. They could at least identified the old guns and the new ones by manufacturer, model and caliber.


5 posted on 08/25/2021 6:05:13 PM PDT by WayneM (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: WayneM

My guess is they are Glocks and they are swapping them out for standard trigger units.


6 posted on 08/25/2021 6:06:42 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: lapsus calami

What the hell is an”easier firing weapon”? Must be a new woke term. They all fire easy if you are well trained in marksmanship skills.


7 posted on 08/25/2021 6:09:11 PM PDT by mosaicwolf
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Yes 12# trigger is too much.
You want a heavy trigger for a defensive gun, but not that heavy


8 posted on 08/25/2021 6:09:15 PM PDT by Rocko Jack
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To: Lurkinanloomin
Had a revolver with a 12lb DA trigger.

Women in the family couldn't even squeeze it.

9 posted on 08/25/2021 6:10:54 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix circa 1984.)
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To: mosaicwolf

They mean the trigger is too tough to pull.
Throws your aim off


10 posted on 08/25/2021 6:11:15 PM PDT by Rocko Jack
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The 12# trigger is called the “New York” trigger. It was planned to cause less negligent discharges.


11 posted on 08/25/2021 6:11:22 PM PDT by Paperpusher
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To: Rocko Jack

I remember the first time I fired a .45 1911 in Officer training. I had from early years been taught about squeezing the trigger, but the guys who set these up for the officer cadets made them so you could not squeeze the trigger. It took me a lot of rounds before firing the weapon was not a danger to the guys standing behind me. Jerking a trigger was not something I could get used to.

Eventually I became comfortable shooting a .45, but only after shooting one that was maintained to be shot while holding a bead on the target.


12 posted on 08/25/2021 6:14:50 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Paperpusher

The “New York trigger” has been a standing joke in the gun community for a least a decade.


13 posted on 08/25/2021 6:16:15 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (Eleutheromaniac)
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To: algore
Critics have hit back at the move though, claiming more people will be at risk

The only person not at risk with a 12 lb trigger pull is the guy the gun is pointed at before it is pulled off target pulling the trigger.

Sounds like there is a whole line of ignorant idiots opposing rationality.

14 posted on 08/25/2021 6:17:47 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Paperpusher

It will do that, it will also make it much harder to hit anything.


15 posted on 08/25/2021 6:18:50 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Can’t they just give them a nice DP-12?


16 posted on 08/25/2021 6:18:51 PM PDT by oldasrocks
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To: Paperpusher
It was planned to cause less negligent discharges.

I would rather think it highly negligent to impose a requirement that means that someone else besides the guy the gun is pointed at will be hit when the gun finally goes off.

I would ask what idiot? but it sounds like there is a conspiracy of them.

17 posted on 08/25/2021 6:20:06 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: algore

The Tighter the Pucker the Loser the Grouping


18 posted on 08/25/2021 6:22:10 PM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: algore
NYPD outfits their pistols with a trigger pull weight of 12# in order to cut down on negligent discharges in order to satisfy the lawyers. A pistol with a trigger that heavy is almost impossible to shoot accurately so while they satisfied the lawyers they made them almost useless in the process. Only in New York would something like this be considered a good idea.

They've been doing this ever since they transitioned away from revolvers years ago. Police officers, especially New York police officers, do not practice nearly as much as the average gun enthusiast and are usually comparatively poor shots. It takes a lot of practice to shoot a pistol with a 12# trigger well and very few cops practice that much. The result predictably is a poor shooting record by New York police.

19 posted on 08/25/2021 6:22:58 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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Give them a revolver and they'll surprise everyone with how accurate they get when every bullet has to count. I'm not kidding.

Start them on a revolver, make them earn the semi-automatic, and make them re-qualify for it yearly.

In a densely populated area, you'd figure the last thing you'd want is sloppy cops throwing rounds all over the place.

20 posted on 08/25/2021 6:23:36 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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