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The Fall of Saigon Didn’t End Gerald Ford’s Presidency
nymag ^ | 08/16/2021 | Ed Kilgore

Posted on 08/25/2021 10:44:35 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

For baby boomers, the minute it became apparent the United States would finally end its military involvement in Afghanistan, even as the Taliban rapidly took over the country, images from the shocking end of the Vietnam War — America’s longest before this one — came flooding back. They were certainly on the mind of the baby-boomer-in-chief when he spoke of the endgame in July:

Now that the images and the reality of two bitterly divisive and costly wars ending in the triumph of America’s adversaries are converging so dramatically, those mulling the political impact of the debacle in Kabul should take a look back at the events of April 1975. Did the calamitous end of the Vietnam War change hearts and minds in this country? For that matter, did the fall of Saigon play a material role in the premature end of Gerald Ford’s presidency in the 1976 election?

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: demspulledfunding; fall; ford; presidency; saigon
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When Ford was debating Peanut Head and said Poland was not a eastern block country did him in.
1 posted on 08/25/2021 10:44:35 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Gerald Ford took decisive action with respect to the Mayaguez incident.


2 posted on 08/25/2021 10:46:30 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I remember those times. Few people blamed Ford for the fall of Saigon, even while it was happening. We knew his hands were tied and he had tried his best.

Can’t say the same about Bumbling Biden.


3 posted on 08/25/2021 10:49:15 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have alrseady previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ford, GWB and Biden have an IQ of 150 … COMBINED.


4 posted on 08/25/2021 10:49:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The fall of Tehran ended Jimmah Carter’s Presidency, though.


5 posted on 08/25/2021 10:50:20 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It wasn’t Ford who cut off funding to the ARVN.


6 posted on 08/25/2021 10:51:51 AM PDT by jdege
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I remember Carter’s political add.

It featured a picture of Nixon and the caption read
“ would you buy a used Ford from this man “?


7 posted on 08/25/2021 10:52:25 AM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Not remotely close to being analogous.


8 posted on 08/25/2021 10:54:04 AM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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“It wasn’t Ford who cut off funding to the ARVN”

Nope. But it WAS Biden, who as a Senator at the time voted to screw South Vietnam.


9 posted on 08/25/2021 10:54:57 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I was just a wee tot in grammar school at the time, but my impression is people didn’t like him because nobody voted for him. For those younger than me, he was appointed to VP by Nixon after Agnew resigned, and after Nixon resigned he become POTUS.

I think after Agnew and then Nixon, the people just couldn’t come to accept Ford. Not really his fault, it was what it was.


10 posted on 08/25/2021 10:56:18 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The fall of Saigon started with the Easter Offensive in 1972. All downhill from there.


11 posted on 08/25/2021 10:57:56 AM PDT by Bobibutu
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That’s kind of an apple to oranges comparison.

We did not have ground troops in VN. It was two years after we pulled out. The South Vietnamese put up a decent retreat.

While the last day was crazy, it was not a protracted mess. And we did not leave thousands there, holding their hand on their rear ends.

There was a lot that was different.


12 posted on 08/25/2021 10:58:04 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Larry Lucido

True but the whole operation was a fiasco.


13 posted on 08/25/2021 10:58:13 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: ChicagoConservative27
The Fall of Saigon Didn't End Gerald Ford's Presidency

But then he got clobbered by a weak, pathetic loser like Jimmy Carter in the next elections.

14 posted on 08/25/2021 11:01:02 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: Bobibutu

That Easter offensive was repulsed by ARVN forces with US air support. The Watergate scandal doomed South Vietnam.


15 posted on 08/25/2021 11:01:09 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Vermont Lt

“That’s kind of an apple to oranges comparison.”

Beat me to it. They are pulling out all the mental gymnastics to rescue Biden.


16 posted on 08/25/2021 11:01:45 AM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: Regulator

The irony of that will not be lost on history. Assuming that eventually honest history books will be written.


17 posted on 08/25/2021 11:03:01 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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On Saigon...

There were not thousands of American citizen civilians on the ground there. Those that remained were evacuated first.

Enormous difference that the author fails to recognize.


18 posted on 08/25/2021 11:03:13 AM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I always attributed Gerald Ford’s failure as President to his lenient treatment of Richard Nixon.

Proclamation 4311 was a presidential proclamation issued by President of the United States Gerald Ford on September 8, 1974, granting a full and unconditional pardon to Richard Nixon, his predecessor, for any crimes that he might have committed against the United States as president. Therefore, the revenge of the Nixon-haters had to be postponed until such opportune time in the future they could take out their wrath on Gerald Ford.

And wrath aplenty they rained down upon Ford, a much better man and much better President in every way than Jimmy Carter, a hack politician from an insignificant state of the Old Confederacy.


19 posted on 08/25/2021 11:03:40 AM PDT by alloysteel ( Poor people give rich people all their money anyway. Just as they have always done.)
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To: monkeyshine

“I think after Agnew and then Nixon, the people just couldn’t come to accept Ford. Not really his fault, it was what it was.”

There is much truth to that.


20 posted on 08/25/2021 11:04:38 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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