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Afghanistan proves our failed generals no longer care about winning
NY Post ^ | August 21, 2021 | Michael Walsh

Posted on 08/23/2021 6:49:51 AM PDT by george76

To the surprise of only the Biden administration and its top brass, the Taliban retook .. Afghanistan .. a spectacular failure

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It’s easy to blame the craven civilian leadership that pushed us into this morass, starting with the naïve and weak-willed George W. Bush; the feckless Barack Obama, and now the senile Joe Biden

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During the Civil War, Lincoln cycled through general after general until he found Ulysses S. Grant, who frequently rejected his commander in chief’s tactical suggestions, for which Lincoln was ultimately grateful.

In World War I, the American Commander “Black Jack” Pershing ignored British and French insistence that his men serve in a supporting role. Under Pershing, the US First Army smashed through the German defenses at Saint-Mihiel in September 1918; two months later, the war was over.

With America reeling from the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Army and Navy came up with an audacious plan to attack Tokyo, and in April of 1942, Jimmy Doolittle’s B-25s were raining bombs on the Japanese homeland.

By contrast, the Failure Generals in Iraq and Afghanistan such as David Petraeus, Jim Mattis, Stanley McChrystal, and Mark Milley .. have consistently failed ... fretting about “white rage” in the ranks.

Just last month, Milley was airily dismissing reports of an imminent Taliban victory in Afghanistan,

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another American fighting man, the great George S. Patton Jr. — who won his stars on the battlefield and not in the halls of Congress — who best exemplified how winners think.

Ordered in March 1945 to bypass the historic city of Trier in the Third Army’s lightning thrust into Germany because it was likely to take at least four divisions, Patton seized the town anyway: “Have taken Trier with two divisions. Do you want me to give it back?”

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; patton; pentagon; taliban
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1 posted on 08/23/2021 6:49:51 AM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Send all the Generals at the Pentagon to clean up the mess.


2 posted on 08/23/2021 6:51:32 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: george76

Mary Tzu and the Modern Art of Politicking?


3 posted on 08/23/2021 6:53:01 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: george76

They care more about woke politics. The Dems are very good at placing fellow travelers throughout the government.


4 posted on 08/23/2021 6:54:12 AM PDT by brownsfan (For conservatives, we have taxation without representation.)
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To: shanover

The Afghanistan debacle is much deeper and longer than out current senile POTUS. The DeeCee Deep State Swamp War Party (neo-cons and faux libs) IMHO love this chaos (wow! We get to go to WAR again!). I don’t trust a syllable that comes from media or deep state. LIES are their first and only option... and if their lies don’t work...they just LIE harder!!! Now with the reported atrocities of Taliban... I do wonder is it all true... or are the Swamp chicken warhawks and their media toadies trying to restart the war to save their profits? ALL trust is lost!!!


5 posted on 08/23/2021 6:54:17 AM PDT by FiddlePig (The greatest threat to our sacred liberty is to not value it!””)
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To: george76

Lloyd Austin actually said that no one expected the Taliban to advance so fast. Not a single general at the Pentagon or other war planner even suggested the possibility.

We deserve what is going to hit us.


6 posted on 08/23/2021 6:54:50 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Dum Spiro, Pugno)
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To: george76
starting with the naïve and weak-willed George W. Bush;


Way, way too kind.
7 posted on 08/23/2021 6:55:35 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The crowd was chanting "Death to America", but they were a mostly friendly crowd.)
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To: george76

Milley should resign, the fast way.


8 posted on 08/23/2021 6:56:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: george76

they DEMANDED the military take the CCP Bioweapon
showing they are either STUPID or TREASONOUS
while wearing their pink pussy hats,
parading their multicolored flags (not of this Republic)
and castigating GEOTUS.


9 posted on 08/23/2021 6:57:13 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Tuitio Fidei et Obsequium Pauperum)
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Right after Pearl Harbor FDR got rid of Gen. Short and Adm. Kimmel. Both men were also reduced in rank.

How much responsibility for the attack did those two really have? It didn’t matter. A message had to be sent. Screw up, and you’re gone. Those days are over. Nobody is held accountable for anything anymore.


10 posted on 08/23/2021 7:01:39 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Of course they didn’t.
Their careers are not tied to victory, and that is all they care about, their ‘careers.’


11 posted on 08/23/2021 7:01:57 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: george76

This is what happens when vile, incompetent, political pole climbers claw their way to the top in the military. You get woke politicians, not seasoned warriors commanding young brave soldiers, sailors and Marines who they send into harm’s way. The country must be rid of them and these people must be held accountable for their malfeance.


12 posted on 08/23/2021 7:03:03 AM PDT by allendale
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A point of correction - this is the mythology of Pershing. American’s probably would have done well to fight in concert with the experienced Brits and French. Pershing’s basic strategy was ‘mindless attack’, which ALL the other combatants had wisely ceased.

By the second week of the Meuse-Argonne campaign, raw replacement troops, who had never even loaded or fired a rifle, were being sent to front line units.

The German army was a hard shell with little backing it up, supported by a starving populace. Tens of thousands of American deaths and innumerable casualties could have been avoided with a more thoughtful approach.


13 posted on 08/23/2021 7:03:22 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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Sorry. In my post #10 I should have mentioned that Short commanded the army at Pearl Harbor, and Kimmel commanded the navy there.


14 posted on 08/23/2021 7:05:11 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: FiddlePig

The kleptocracy of the Deep State is on display.

Afghanistan after Tora Bora became a cash cow for the families and friends of politicians, generals and intelligence folks.

Billions in contracts, purchases and training were awarded.

One reason the Afghan Army collapsed is because it has ZERO air support.

Why?

The US gave the Afghans tons of helicopters and planes. The Afghans knew how to maintain the Russian equipment that they had, but the US Congress decreed that we should not train the Afghans in maintenance and repair, but the Afghans should pay for US contractors to do the maintenance and repair.

So, once we announced we were pulling out, the US contractors got out, leaving the Afghans with air equipment that they could not repair or maintain.

In essence, we grounded the Afghan Air Force, leaving the Afghan Army with no air cover because we were busy enriching politicians, donors and friends.


15 posted on 08/23/2021 7:11:17 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: george76
With America reeling from the attack on Pearl Harbor, the Army and Navy came up with an audacious plan to attack Tokyo, and in April of 1942, Jimmy Doolittle’s B-25s were raining bombs on the Japanese homeland.

By contrast, the Failure Generals in Iraq and Afghanistan such as David Petraeus, Jim Mattis, Stanley McChrystal, and Mark Milley .. have consistently failed ... fretting about “white rage” in the ranks.

No matter how much Hunter screams about having to return money to China, Biden needs to fire the traitors... no one makes this many stupid 'errors' by accident. Investigate the corrupt, stupid and possible commie 'generals'...

16 posted on 08/23/2021 7:24:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (Iran, China, North Korea and Pakistan are reverse engineering captured AMERICAN weapons as we type.)
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To: CodeJockey
Lloyd Austin actually said that no one expected the Taliban to advance so fast. Not a single general at the Pentagon or other war planner even suggested the possibility.

Lloyd Austin is a DAMN LIAR he knew. Our allies told him, military intelligence told him, the situation on the ground the weeks prior told him. He is a Damn Liar.

17 posted on 08/23/2021 7:24:20 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, consultant, pilot instructor, pharmacist , retired now)
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To: allendale

One of the first things Marxists do upon attaining power is a purge of the military leadership. This is exactly what Obama did with little to no notice given by big media or much concern expressed by the people in Congress who are responsible for paying attention to that sort of thing. America has been let down by the leadership of virtually every institution responsible for protecting and defending it, and that’s why we find ourselves in this situation. American voters have been “asleep at the wheel” long enough for the left to gain control of just about everything necessary to rule without consequence.


18 posted on 08/23/2021 7:27:31 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: george76

A general officer is actually a vp of operations or division supervisor in the real world. They spend a percentage of time managing the operation and a percentage schmoozing with clients. Killing people is rarely on their to do list.


19 posted on 08/23/2021 7:30:22 AM PDT by lurk ( )
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To: george76

Our generals mastered the art of promotion and not the art of war.


20 posted on 08/23/2021 7:40:56 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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