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Liz Cheney: Trump's 'Surrender’ to the Taliban Led Directly to Afghanistan Chaos
Breitbart ^ | August 22, 2021 | Pam Key

Posted on 08/22/2021 8:26:56 AM PDT by White Lives Matter

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To: tennmountainman; MinuteGal; M Kehoe

“Post #104 makes more sense than your explanation.”

Please find the fault in my analysis and post it. As to post #104, it may or may not be true. I doubt highly that McCarthy is as hardcore as Liz Cheney and she is causing him a few more gray hairs trying to work around her when she is being a big pain in the butt to the Senate leadership.

On the other hand, I don’t trust McCarthy either as he has way too much RINO in him for my tastes, but nevertheless, he is the Minority Leader, and has to count heads and try to keep his herd of cats together for crucial votes. It is as it is.


121 posted on 08/22/2021 2:25:21 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Donald J.Trump, President in 2024 - DeSantis for VP (or Senior Advisor))
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To: flaglady47

“a big pain in the butt to the Senate leadership”

Oops, that’s House leadership, not Senate. Had a Senior momentary lapse.


122 posted on 08/22/2021 2:32:32 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Donald J.Trump, President in 2024 - DeSantis for VP (or Senior Advisor))
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To: flaglady47

For one thing RATs in House have enough votes to pass those bills
With or without Liz Cheney.


123 posted on 08/22/2021 2:33:41 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell Lies, More AZ Style Audits)
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To: White Lives Matter

But with multiple primary challengers, she can win with 20 to 25 percent of the vote. No runoffs outside the South

So with Cheney, LESS IS More


124 posted on 08/22/2021 2:37:19 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

No recalls for Congress people are allowed.


125 posted on 08/22/2021 2:39:01 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( )
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To: flaglady47

“Why hasn’t McCarthy kicked her out of the GOP.”

Because he periodically needs her vote, such as when the next 2 votes come up on the 3.5 trillion “green” deal to be voted on, as well as the voter election bill. The Pubs have to hold the whole Pub coalition together so none of the RINO’s vote with the Dems on this, as they can and probably have threatened to do, which is why the Pubs allowed the infrastructure bill to be passed with RINO help in the Senate in order to not have them vote the same on the 2 upcoming more important bills. They are hoping that Manchin and the other moderate lady whose name I can’t remember will vote against them.


No, McCarthy acts the way he does because the GOP donor class agrees with Lizard. That is who McCarthy represents and not us. MTG has a vote, too. But apparently McCarthy doesn’t need her vote.


126 posted on 08/22/2021 2:48:16 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Nextrush

Tulsi Gabbard is right about one thing, the military industrial complex is out of control.


127 posted on 08/22/2021 3:25:09 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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To: White Lives Matter

Now who didn’t see this coming, real despicable scum on both sides


128 posted on 08/22/2021 3:27:40 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (“When the people fear the government you have tyranny, when the government fears the people you have)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Tulsi’s right about a lot of things, wrong on some things.


129 posted on 08/22/2021 3:29:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: lodi90; MinuteGal; M Kehoe

“No, McCarthy acts the way he does because the GOP donor class agrees with Lizard. That is who McCarthy represents and not us. MTG has a vote, too. But apparently McCarthy doesn’t need her vote.”

You can believe whatever you want about McCarthy’s inner motives, and you are probably right on much of it. However, it doesn’t negate the basic fact that McCarthy is Minority Leader of the Pubs, he must count votes and needs all of them on crucial bills that come before the House.

McCarthy maintains regular phone contact with Trump and Trump continues to support McCarthy, warts and all, because he politically needs him to help shape bills, speeches and votes that take place in the House. Plus it is necessary to keep donor dollars coming in for Pub candidates in campaigns for the House. Trump considers McCarthy an ally of necessity, knowing McCarthy isn’t his best bud, but Trump is a practical sort that doesn’t stoop to emotionalism in order to get things done.

McCarthy for the most part does have MTG’s vote. She may not be a choice to be on Committees, but she still votes on all bills before the House. McCarthy was pressured into keeping her off committees by a lot of bad press and various comments she had made in her past, and throwing her off of committees to minimize the vicious Dem/MSM campaign against her, stunk big-time. However, she still votes on all issues and she is actually very free to speak out even more than had she been on some obscure committee. It sure raised her profile to the public. When the Pubs are back in power in the House, she will get committee assignments once again. Mark my words.

Back to McCarthy, he’s the Pub House Leader right now; if Trump gets back in the White House, it will be interesting to see how he finesses McCarthy at that point.


130 posted on 08/22/2021 3:39:20 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Donald J.Trump, President in 2024 - DeSantis for VP (or Senior Advisor))
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To: lodi90; MinuteGal; M Kehoe

‘No, McCarthy acts the way he does because the GOP donor class agrees with Lizard. That is who McCarthy represents and not us. MTG has a vote, too. But apparently McCarthy doesn’t need her vote.”

You forget, don’t you, that McCarthy & Company ousted Liz from her House leadership role, so Liz got das boot just as MTG did. Tit for tat.


131 posted on 08/22/2021 3:48:17 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Donald J.Trump, President in 2024 - DeSantis for VP (or Senior Advisor))
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To: flaglady47

You forget, don’t you, that McCarthy & Company ousted Liz from her House leadership role, so Liz got das boot just as MTG did. Tit for tat.


That’s not equivalent punishment at all. McCarthy left Lizard sitting on the powerful House Armed Services committee while stripping MTG of her committee seats. Seats are a primary source of donor funds. Cheney’s got a plum committee seat while MTG has been kneecapped or worse. Cheney speaks for the House GOP. It couldn’t be more clear.


132 posted on 08/22/2021 5:46:44 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: dfwgator
Re: "Outside of occupation, what would have been the alternative?"

There was no alternative.

I am just pointing out that Trump's plan and Biden's plan converged at exactly the same place - total control of Afghanistan by the Taliban.

Obviously, in regard to American hostages and USA military bases and equipment, Trump's plan was superior.

133 posted on 08/22/2021 11:56:49 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: White Lives Matter

Not according to a former British commander in Afghanistan. He recommends Biden be court marshalled.


134 posted on 08/23/2021 12:11:56 AM PDT by jersey117
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