Posted on 08/22/2021 8:26:56 AM PDT by White Lives Matter
Representative Liz Cheney (R-WY) said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that former President Donald Trump and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo’s “surrender agreement with the Taliban” led directly to the unfolding situation of the Taliban taking over Afghanistan as the U.S. military withdraws.
Cheney said, “We know the Taliban has never renounced al Qaeda. This is one of the things that was such an indefensible step by the Trump administration. When President Trump and Secretary of State Pompeo designed to sign a surrender agreement with the Taliban.”
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“Post #104 makes more sense than your explanation.”
Please find the fault in my analysis and post it. As to post #104, it may or may not be true. I doubt highly that McCarthy is as hardcore as Liz Cheney and she is causing him a few more gray hairs trying to work around her when she is being a big pain in the butt to the Senate leadership.
On the other hand, I don’t trust McCarthy either as he has way too much RINO in him for my tastes, but nevertheless, he is the Minority Leader, and has to count heads and try to keep his herd of cats together for crucial votes. It is as it is.
“a big pain in the butt to the Senate leadership”
Oops, that’s House leadership, not Senate. Had a Senior momentary lapse.
For one thing RATs in House have enough votes to pass those bills
With or without Liz Cheney.
But with multiple primary challengers, she can win with 20 to 25 percent of the vote. No runoffs outside the South
So with Cheney, LESS IS More
No recalls for Congress people are allowed.
“Why hasn’t McCarthy kicked her out of the GOP.”
Because he periodically needs her vote, such as when the next 2 votes come up on the 3.5 trillion “green” deal to be voted on, as well as the voter election bill. The Pubs have to hold the whole Pub coalition together so none of the RINO’s vote with the Dems on this, as they can and probably have threatened to do, which is why the Pubs allowed the infrastructure bill to be passed with RINO help in the Senate in order to not have them vote the same on the 2 upcoming more important bills. They are hoping that Manchin and the other moderate lady whose name I can’t remember will vote against them.
No, McCarthy acts the way he does because the GOP donor class agrees with Lizard. That is who McCarthy represents and not us. MTG has a vote, too. But apparently McCarthy doesn’t need her vote.
Tulsi Gabbard is right about one thing, the military industrial complex is out of control.
Now who didn’t see this coming, real despicable scum on both sides
Tulsi’s right about a lot of things, wrong on some things.
“No, McCarthy acts the way he does because the GOP donor class agrees with Lizard. That is who McCarthy represents and not us. MTG has a vote, too. But apparently McCarthy doesn’t need her vote.”
You can believe whatever you want about McCarthy’s inner motives, and you are probably right on much of it. However, it doesn’t negate the basic fact that McCarthy is Minority Leader of the Pubs, he must count votes and needs all of them on crucial bills that come before the House.
McCarthy maintains regular phone contact with Trump and Trump continues to support McCarthy, warts and all, because he politically needs him to help shape bills, speeches and votes that take place in the House. Plus it is necessary to keep donor dollars coming in for Pub candidates in campaigns for the House. Trump considers McCarthy an ally of necessity, knowing McCarthy isn’t his best bud, but Trump is a practical sort that doesn’t stoop to emotionalism in order to get things done.
McCarthy for the most part does have MTG’s vote. She may not be a choice to be on Committees, but she still votes on all bills before the House. McCarthy was pressured into keeping her off committees by a lot of bad press and various comments she had made in her past, and throwing her off of committees to minimize the vicious Dem/MSM campaign against her, stunk big-time. However, she still votes on all issues and she is actually very free to speak out even more than had she been on some obscure committee. It sure raised her profile to the public. When the Pubs are back in power in the House, she will get committee assignments once again. Mark my words.
Back to McCarthy, he’s the Pub House Leader right now; if Trump gets back in the White House, it will be interesting to see how he finesses McCarthy at that point.
‘No, McCarthy acts the way he does because the GOP donor class agrees with Lizard. That is who McCarthy represents and not us. MTG has a vote, too. But apparently McCarthy doesn’t need her vote.”
You forget, don’t you, that McCarthy & Company ousted Liz from her House leadership role, so Liz got das boot just as MTG did. Tit for tat.
You forget, don’t you, that McCarthy & Company ousted Liz from her House leadership role, so Liz got das boot just as MTG did. Tit for tat.
That’s not equivalent punishment at all. McCarthy left Lizard sitting on the powerful House Armed Services committee while stripping MTG of her committee seats. Seats are a primary source of donor funds. Cheney’s got a plum committee seat while MTG has been kneecapped or worse. Cheney speaks for the House GOP. It couldn’t be more clear.
There was no alternative.
I am just pointing out that Trump's plan and Biden's plan converged at exactly the same place - total control of Afghanistan by the Taliban.
Obviously, in regard to American hostages and USA military bases and equipment, Trump's plan was superior.
Not according to a former British commander in Afghanistan. He recommends Biden be court marshalled.
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