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Cal State schools, including Sac State, confront courses with high failure, withdrawal rates
Sacramento Bee ^ | August 20, 2021 | LARRY GORDON

Posted on 08/21/2021 6:32:06 PM PDT by artichokegrower

California State University students are failing or withdrawing at high rates from many courses — including chemistry, calculus, English and U.S. history — prompting renewed efforts for systemwide reform.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


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KEYWORDS: aa; affirmativeaction; bidenvoters; education; mismatch
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Particularly in some science and math courses, Black and Latino students on average show significantly higher failure rates than white and Asian students.


China is laughing at us

1 posted on 08/21/2021 6:32:06 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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The ChiComs are licking their chops.


2 posted on 08/21/2021 6:34:05 PM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Just charge fail prone students $100 grand, award a diploma without the hassle of attending classes for four to six years.


3 posted on 08/21/2021 6:35:05 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (Anti Socialist Derelict at Large)
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The only solution is pass/fail.
Or just mail everybody a diploma for $150K.


4 posted on 08/21/2021 6:35:34 PM PDT by GnuThere
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Passing US History is as easy as regurgitating the liberal propaganda from the professor. Just blame the whiteman, make any minority out to be a victim, criticize any post WWII military campaign, and heap praise on any labor union. Doesn’t matter the depth of knowledge.


5 posted on 08/21/2021 6:35:53 PM PDT by LukeL
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It’s almost as if the Bell Curve is real…


6 posted on 08/21/2021 6:36:43 PM PDT by EEGator
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Gee...this is what happens when you drop all admissions criteria (including the SAT).

Of course, their “solution” will be to fire all the White professors. Because diversity.


7 posted on 08/21/2021 6:37:28 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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prompting renewed efforts for systemwide reform.

Somehow I doubt their reform means more tutors, or comprehensive study groups.

8 posted on 08/21/2021 6:37:42 PM PDT by Bearshouse
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I can save a lot of reading for all y’all.

CSU courses dumbed down to increase passing rates. Breathing now 50% of grade credit.


9 posted on 08/21/2021 6:37:46 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The democrats have just replaced KKK with CRT. /Kevin McCarty 7/6/21)
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Calculus will be replaced by Napping 101, guaranteed everyone passes that.


10 posted on 08/21/2021 6:38:56 PM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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"...prompting renewed efforts for systemwide reform."

I KNOW!!! I have the answer!!

Just lower grading standards. Everybody gets an A. Problem solved.

11 posted on 08/21/2021 6:40:45 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Criminal democrats kill babies. Do you think anything else is a problem for them?”)
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But they all hate whitey .
especially the millennia morons .
congrats cali commies


12 posted on 08/21/2021 6:41:25 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists are the real danger )
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The cool thing about Math this century is that 2 + 2 = Whatever You Want. You don’t even have to memorize the answer the communist prof wants you to regurgitate. There IS NO WRONG ANSWER.

“Right” answers are acting white and wanting to please the white man.


13 posted on 08/21/2021 6:42:24 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Criminal democrats kill babies. Do you think anything else is a problem for them?”)
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I used to teach College Chemistry, enormous pressure from the PC Deans to lower my standards and please the bean counters.


14 posted on 08/21/2021 6:44:24 PM PDT by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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When I was University of Oklahoma in 1970, the engineering department had all of their incoming students take two semesters of physics from the physics department. It was the same undergraduate physics course which physics majors were expected to take.

Everyone knew that it was a way to cull out the students who wouldn’t make it in engineering.

Our second semester physics class had four sessions and three instructors. There were 160 students total. The instructors would make up the exams during the semester and then the instructors would take them and grade themselves. I was really proud of myself when, just before the final exam, my instructor announced to our class that not only did I have the best overall exam score, but I had tied the results of one of the instructors. They waived the final exam for me.

Today, with relaxed entrance requirements, I’m sure that the culling needs to be in place. Otherwise, the whole program will get bogged down with students who have no business in college.

But, of course, that is the plan!


15 posted on 08/21/2021 6:45:25 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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Oregon students should be welcome in their system. They won’t have to pass anything (starting in 2026) in high school to get a diploma.


16 posted on 08/21/2021 6:46:47 PM PDT by Cold Heart
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Making the university even more worthless.


17 posted on 08/21/2021 6:47:54 PM PDT by lurk ( )
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The grifters that benefit from the mid-education of our kids get paid beaucoup money to fix what they broke. Payback is a bitch.


18 posted on 08/21/2021 6:48:41 PM PDT by WMarshal (The Pleasant American)
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"Worse, failing a class can send students into a tailspin that leads to abandoning majors or dropping out altogether."

Looks like author Larry Gordon doesn't fully grasp the purpose of grading. Failing classes is INTENDED to tell the kid that YOU CAN'T CUT IT -- go find another major. The "tailspin" is exactly what's needed.

When I entered Engineering school back in the fall of 1969, we were explicitly told to look left and right. Two of the three of you would not be graduating as a Mechanical Engineer in four years. A TWO THIRDS drop-out rate was fully EXPECTED.

Grades communicate if you are going to make it the same way prices communicate whether you can afford a product or not.

Author Gordon is an absolute idiot himself. If he went to college, he sure didn't gain any smarts.

19 posted on 08/21/2021 6:49:22 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Criminal democrats kill babies. Do you think anything else is a problem for them?”)
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They want to funnel students into the free community college Biden program.


20 posted on 08/21/2021 6:51:44 PM PDT by cnsmom
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