Posted on 08/20/2021 5:53:38 AM PDT by marktwain
U.S.A. –-(AmmoLand.com)- On 8 July, 2019, in Madison, Illinois, at about 7:40 pm, there was a confrontation between twin brothers and three other people. The confrontation appears to have been between twin brothers Corion Mosley, and Torion Mosley, both 21 years old, and at least three other people, two minors and an adult. The story has been covered extensively by reporter Scott Cousins of The Telegraph.
Both twins had felony convictions from 2016 for armed robbery, according to thetelegraph.com. Torion Mosely faced a pending assault charge and an aggravated domestic battery charge. The two brothers faced a 21-year-old, unnamed adult, a 16-year-old minor, and 15-year-old Omarion Coleman, according to reports in bdn.com.
During the confrontation, Torion Mosely passed a handgun to Corion Mosely. Corion Mosely shot the three people confronting him, killing Omarion Coleman and wounding the other two.
The two brothers were charged with First Degree Murder, Attempted First Degree Murder, Aggravated Assault, and Possession of Weapons by a Felon.
Before the trial of Corion Mosely, his brother, Torion Mosely, had already plead guilty to lesser charges to obtain a six-year prison sentence. Corion Mosely decided on a jury trial.
Scott Cousins reports two versions of events were presented to the jury. The prosecution portrayed the shootings as payback for verbal disrespect; the defense claimed Corion reasonably considered himself under a deadly threat by a street gang.
In their closing arguments Thursday, attorneys painted different pictures of the incident.
Assistant Madison County State’s Attorney Luke Yager said Corion Mosley shot and killed Coleman for smarting off to him, then shot two other people. Defense attorney Patrick Ryan Dunn Sullivan said the two brothers were surrounded by a gang of hostile, possibly armed, youths and Corion Mosley shot them in self-defense.
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...especially when someone smarts off to him ...
“Even a convicted felon has a right to self defense.”
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True dat.
Torion Mosely passed a handgun to Corion Mosely. Corion Mosely shot the three people confronting him, killing Omarion ...
They were all related
Forgive me for supposing there is a racial element involved here because a gangbanger is possibly involved. Otherwise, this would’ve never gone to trial.
Corion Mosley and Torion Mosely mug shots.
BTT!
The fact any “conservative” thinks someone must give up their right to self-defense because they made past mistakes (even felony mistakes) means that person does not understand what grace, mercy, or being Conservative actually means!
If he would have killed a policeman, should he have been found innocent because of self-defense? I can see that as a plea for criminals involved in shoot outs with the police in the future.
I was assigned to jury duty recently. When I was interviewed in jury selection I was honest with the judge. The charge was illegal possession of a weapon, and the perp appeared to be a drug dealer. Now personally, I'd execute all drug dealers. But even a felon has a right to self defense, so I could not in good conscience find him guilty.
I was excused from the case.
Police make mistakes. They go to the wrong house. They draw down on the wrong person. They do not announce themselves.
The cases are rare, but they exist.
I agree.
My late brother messed up when he was 17 years old. Drunk and high, he held up someone. He went to prison. After getting out, he never saw the inside of even a police car for the rest of his life! Not even a speeding ticket!
After he got out he got married, he had three kids, he started his own metal building/welding company, bought 24 acres of land, and owned three horses. With all that, according to the laws in most states, my brother didn’t have the RIGHT to defend himself, his wife, his children, his property, nor his business.
How anyone, especially a “conservative”, could think that makes sense is beyond any reasonable, rational thinking!
True, but how many of those rare cases was the shooter already a convicted felon? I was talking about your everyday, run of the mill criminal, and/or gang-banger.
E.G. Gangsters of the 1930’s pleading that when they were caught by the G-men. Provided they didn’t die in the shoot-out such as Bonnie & Clyde and several others.
We are starting to see cases such as you suggest, with Black Lives Matter backing...
There’s a lot of truth in that.
In this story, it sounds a lot like “trash taking out the trash”.
I’m comfortable with that.
Agree with you. People can make mistakes and too many things are called felonies. It just another backdoor infringement.
ExTx;
No he had the right to self defense, just not the lawful use of arms.
I am aware of several cases where a felon used a firearm to defend his life within the law and was not prosecuted for possession of arms.
But, yes, I hear ya, a permanent deprivation of rights (other than capital punishment, or life in prison sentence) is not within the constitution or of natural rights law.
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