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'Biden ALONE is responsible': US media blast President for his 'blame-shifting' after 'wilful abandonment' of Afghanistan where ZERO US soldiers have died in last 18 months... but some left-wing press are back on side
UK Daily Mail ^ | August 17 2021 | MARK DUELL FOR MAILONLINE

Posted on 08/17/2021 11:51:35 AM PDT by knighthawk

The US media blasted Joe Biden today for his 'blame shifting' over the Afghanistan crisis after the President criticised Afghan leaders and military for refusing to fight while defending his decision to withdraw troops.

The Wall Street Journal said in an editorial that Mr Biden 'refused to accept responsibility for the botched withdrawal while blaming others' and the 'one group he conspicuously did not blame was the Taliban'.

A Washington Post editorial said he could have listened to the 'many seasoned hands' giving him alternatives to withdrawal, adding that him blaming others was 'unseemly' given that 2,448 US service members died in 20 years.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; biden; bideneffect; california; dailymail; markduell; media; mediawingofthednc; nancypelosi; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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1 posted on 08/17/2021 11:51:35 AM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk

typical democratic response: blame others. Again, right out of the Alinsky handbook.


2 posted on 08/17/2021 11:54:08 AM PDT by hoe_cake
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Orange Man Bad


3 posted on 08/17/2021 11:59:48 AM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: knighthawk

That little girl in the yellow outfit and her mother and all of the other little girls in the backround...

What a MAJOR CF


4 posted on 08/17/2021 12:05:52 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: knighthawk

Let’s get the facts right: Biden AND HARRIS alone are responsible.


5 posted on 08/17/2021 12:07:57 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: knighthawk

Joe Biden Blvd.

That’s the name I hope to see on the street running right in front of the Taliban headquarters.


6 posted on 08/17/2021 12:09:35 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. OR THE MASK)
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To: knighthawk

This is appalling. It wasn’t Richard Nixon who left the South Vietnamese to their fate. It was the Democrats. Again. THE DEMOCRATS. THE DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED CONGRESS. JOE BIDEN’S PARTY.

Lest we forget, we do bear responsibility to help those who helped us. Others may feel differently, I will disagree. I posted this on another thread the other day:

There is a face to these people, and even if we don’t see them or hear their voices, they exist.

These things we bear national responsibility for that didn’t have to happen this way do have consequences, and most of us are divorced from them. But they exist.

The people we did not protect who deserved it from us who are outright tortured and shot for allying with us, or those who are imprisoned, as this man I describe below was.

I knew a Vietnamese immigrant who worked on machinery for us a few years back, and I had a difficult relationship with him. He was extremely difficult to work with and obstreperous, and grew to dislike him intensely. He was difficult to understand due to his poor English, stubborn to the point of extreme obstinacy, and refused to work with you to resolve issues.

Then, I was forced to work with him closely for several days in a row where we had to spend many long hours in waiting and observation, so in the interest of fostering conversation, I politely asked him where he was from and when he came to America.

He said he was Vietnamese, and had been a junior ARVN officer when Vietnam fell. He came to America in 1979, and when I asked what he did between the fall of Vietnam and his immigration to America, he said that he had been in a “re-education” camp in the jungle up until 1978.

I asked if they had finally released him and allowed him to emigrate, and he said no...he had escaped the camp and made his way to the coast, stolen a boat and made it out to sea.

While on that stolen boat in the South China Sea, he encountered all the privations you would expect, extreme thirst, gnawing hunger, and direct threats from pirates who preyed on people like him.

After spending many days (I recall he said two weeks) alone in that boat, he was rescued and ended up in Australia for some reason. After spending time there, he was able to immigrate to America. (This was quite a few years back, so I can’t remember his exact words)

When he told me all this, I was stunned. All the time I knew this guy, I knew nothing about him or his past, and resolved to never take for granted what a person may be or where they had come from.

But the thing that I will never forget the day I learned of this from him, was when I asked him what it had been like in the re-education camp. He didn’t form any kind of real answer. He just got a very far away look in his eyes, and said almost inaudibly “The things we had to do...” and said no more.

And I didn’t ask.

From that point, everything changed between us. We became very cordial, and every time I encountered him after that, we were both different people. He would even call me to say hello when he was onsite, and I made sure I found the time to visit with him. When we met, we exchanged sincere and warm handshakes and greetings and would converse. Sadly, I have since lost contact with him.

But his experience made me feel anew the shame of our actions in Vietnam in the fashion we let it fall in 1975, without even lifting a hand even though we were fully capable and empowered by the agreement to do just that. It was our “Guarantee” from Communists, given to a Congress who had no intention of enforcing it even though President Ford, as weak as he was, had asked for that aid.

We abandoned people like this Vietnamese immigrant that I met, to the Communist beasts. In the same way we are abandoning many Afghans (who DID work with our troops and protect them) to the Muslim beasts.


7 posted on 08/17/2021 12:11:03 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: knighthawk

This is the hallmark of liberal Democrat administrations: constant screw-ups and constant blame-shifting and excuse making. Backed up and supported by a supine MSM, of course.


8 posted on 08/17/2021 12:21:45 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: rlmorel

Thanks for sharing that story. I’ve met several Vietnamese that escaped and made it here, hard workers and love this country.


9 posted on 08/17/2021 12:28:16 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: rlmorel

Joe Biden opposed helping refugees from South Vietnam get U.S. asylum

The Washington Examiner reported Thursday, citing records from the administration of President Gerald R. Ford, that as a U.S. senator, Mr. Biden tried to deny refuge to hundreds of thousands fleeing the imminent North Vietnamese victory and likely Communist persecution.

Mr. Biden’s arguments about refugees reverse what he and other Democrats now insist are the only moral stances, saying that the U.S. had “no obligation, moral or otherwise, to evacuate foreign nationals,” the Examiner reported.

“The United States has no obligation to evacuate one — or 100,001 — South Vietnamese,” Mr. Biden said then.

In an April 1975 meeting at the White House with Ford and several of his top foreign-policy officials including Henry Kissinger, Mr. Biden said he would not vote to fund evacuation of non-Americans.

“We should focus on getting [U.S. troops] out. Getting the Vietnamese out and military aid for the [South Vietnam’s government] are totally different,” he said.

Mr. Kissinger told Mr. Biden and others in the Senate delegation that there were anywhere from 170,000 to a million South Vietnamese “to whom we have an obligation,” but the Delaware senator, a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, denied that.

“I will vote for any amount for getting the Americans out. I don’t want it mixed with getting the Vietnamese out,” Mr. Biden said, speaking two weeks before the fall of Saigon.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/4/joe-biden-opposed-helping-refugees-from-south-viet/

I agree with getting Americans out as a priority, but not exclusively. I just wish they had vetted the Afghans getting out, instead of flying off with hundreds of young men that rushed on to the plane.


10 posted on 08/17/2021 12:35:41 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: knighthawk

If the mainstream media turn on Biden, it’s not because they suddenly became honest. It’s because they want Harris to take his place.


11 posted on 08/17/2021 12:41:45 PM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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To: hoe_cake

It is a YouTube video!!!


12 posted on 08/17/2021 1:16:08 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifie)
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To: knighthawk

The talking points have been issued. The local rag comment section has all the usual marxist democrat trolls posting the same thing. “Biden inherited the timeline from Trump.”

They don’t reply when I ask why Biden ignored everything else he inherited from Trump, like a secure border, but not this timeline?


13 posted on 08/17/2021 1:24:47 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: JudgemAll

which means what?


14 posted on 08/17/2021 2:34:48 PM PDT by hoe_cake
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
If the goal is to shift blame onto Kameltoe, she's not going to go for it. That means, she'll have to be removed before Brainless Joe is.

15 posted on 08/17/2021 2:34:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: knighthawk

bump


16 posted on 08/17/2021 2:39:29 PM PDT by sauropod (Time is like quicksilver, smearing the years... - Bill Nelson)
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To: knighthawk

Ah the people who “had” the market cornered on tolerance and being nice, unlike those hateful republicans.

The mask cam (fell) off during the Trump Administration when democrats of all Ilk and showed intolerance and hatred towards Trump and his supporters - unto this very day!

Oh yea the folks who think republicans are bad people.

Democrats are an assortment of ugly, hateful, vengeful thugs.


17 posted on 08/17/2021 2:41:12 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: knighthawk

Conservative media is placing the whole blame on Biden. Liberal media is placing as much blame as possible on Trump. No surprise in that at all.


18 posted on 08/17/2021 2:46:19 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: knighthawk

No soldiers had died in 18 months. Yet, there are IDIOTs that still agree with pulling out and letting terrorists takeover the country. That is as stupid as anything the neo-cons or Bill Clinton did.


19 posted on 08/17/2021 2:48:08 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Rusty0604

Joe, behind the scenes to Dr. Jill: it worked in 1975 when I stared down Nixon and Kissinger and by god, I’m the President now and I still say F’em!

Joe, in front of the camera: I’ve direct the government to bring out those Afghanis that we owe an obligation too.


20 posted on 08/17/2021 2:51:38 PM PDT by shotgun
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