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The collapse in Afghanistan has corroded the credibility of Joe Biden – and United States
https://scroll.in ^ | Aug 17, 2021 | William Maley, The Conversation

Posted on 08/17/2021 7:35:05 AM PDT by 11th_VA

… The collapse in Afghanistan that has flowed from current President Joe Biden’s decision to proceed with a complete US troop withdrawal is more than likely to be seen as his own Bay of Pigs moment.

But it may be something worse, akin to the Suez crisis of 1956, which not only humiliated the British government of Sir Anthony Eden, but marked the end of the United Kingdom as a global power.

When historians look back at the shambolic US exit from Afghanistan, it may increasingly appear a critical marker of America’s decline in the world, far eclipsing the flight from Saigon in 1975…

What factors might explain Biden’s gross misjudgement? At this point, several come to mind.

A first factor, universally overlooked, is his lack of relevant experience in dealing hands-on with complex and dangerous foreign policy challenges.

Until becoming president in January, Biden had never held an office with distinct executive authority. He was a longtime legislator and then vice president, and he was a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for 12 years, including several years as chairman.

But he never occupied a position where he was routinely required to make final decisions on matters of high policy with significant associated risks.

Having an interest in world affairs is not the same thing as having strong judgement or a talent for developing and implementing foreign policy. Robert Gates, a former defence secretary in both Republican and Democrat administrations, argued in his 2014 memoir that Biden had been “wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades”…

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TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; biden; collapse
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1 posted on 08/17/2021 7:35:05 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

That ship sailed a long time ago.


2 posted on 08/17/2021 7:36:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: 11th_VA

The credibility of the US was gone the minute they allowed Biden to steal and occupy the White House.


3 posted on 08/17/2021 7:37:22 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021)
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To: 11th_VA

How is it possible to corrupt the credibility of one that has none to begin with?


4 posted on 08/17/2021 7:37:49 AM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah - but now people are saying it all over the world. Hate to say it, but we need to drive Biden’s numbers down to stop his radical agenda.


5 posted on 08/17/2021 7:38:46 AM PDT by 11th_VA (Stolen elections have consequences.)
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To: 11th_VA

One can’t lose something they never had. All people had to do was look at Biden’s lie record for the past fifty years, not to mention plagiarism.


6 posted on 08/17/2021 7:43:23 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: 11th_VA

Notice how that jerk George Bush carefully avoids saying anything critical of Biden or the Democrats ... yet when Pres. Trump was in power he never hesitated to criticize HIM, almost daily it seemed

A lot more people than just Biden are losing their credibility with this disaster - Psaki, Blinken, Liz Cheney, the State Dept., the whole rotten Biden Administration, their Media apologists, etc. etc.


7 posted on 08/17/2021 7:43:39 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: 11th_VA

Wait.. biden had credibility?


8 posted on 08/17/2021 7:44:20 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: 11th_VA

The real lesson here is that the US military cannot even plan and execute a strategic retreat. That is a disaster.


9 posted on 08/17/2021 7:45:55 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Toespi

And that election fraud thingy didn’t help.


10 posted on 08/17/2021 7:46:06 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: CatOwner

Every person who voted for the creep helped smash US credibility.


11 posted on 08/17/2021 7:46:15 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: CatOwner
The credibility of the US was gone the minute they allowed Biden to steal and occupy the White House

Yes.

12 posted on 08/17/2021 7:46:18 AM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: CatOwner

“The credibility of the US was gone the minute they allowed Biden to steal and occupy the White House.”

I would argue the US lost credibility with the attempted coup of 2015-2020. When high ranking officials of the FBI, CIA, outgoing administration and members of the media conspired to overthrow a duly elected President.


13 posted on 08/17/2021 7:47:10 AM PDT by elpadre ( ge amount of money)
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To: CatOwner

This debacle has sown the seeds for many more disasters to come. Our adversaries around the world are watching and taking notes.


14 posted on 08/17/2021 7:47:13 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: 11th_VA

Biden had credibility?

When?


15 posted on 08/17/2021 7:47:31 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Leep

Oh yeah!!!! Forgot that one. LOL


16 posted on 08/17/2021 7:49:59 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: elpadre

Amazing.
It was Trump who restored US credibility.


17 posted on 08/17/2021 7:51:05 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: 11th_VA

In Germany, both Merkel and the Foreign Minister (Maas) have been asked how they ‘bought’ into the whole thing, and they’ve tried avoiding that discussion. It appears they kept buying off on what the US State Department kept saying. Even Merkel and Maas both look incredibly stupid at this point.


18 posted on 08/17/2021 7:52:06 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: 11th_VA; mosaicwolf; Navy Patriot; NKP_Vet; fieldmarshaldj; DarthVader; bitt; SkyDancer; ...

Please help share this; the American people need the truth which is nowhere to be found these days.

What a glorious take down. Watch this. If you watch anything today… this Afghan Vet went nuclear on MSNBC

This Afghanistan vet just blew up MSNBC’s entire Biden-simping Afghanistan narrative LIVE ON AIR.

https://generaldispatch.whatfinger.com/what-a-glorious-takedown-watch-this-if-you-watch-anything-today-this-afghan-vet-went-nuclear-on-msnbc/


19 posted on 08/17/2021 7:52:39 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: canuck_conservative

I’ve learned how to be a pure partisan from the leftists. Anything that makes the Democrats look stupid is a good thing. It doesn’t matter who gets hurt. The only thing that matters is if it makes them look bad or hurts them politically Then I like it.


20 posted on 08/17/2021 7:53:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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