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Why I Won’t Take the Johnson & Johnson Vaccine — a Scientist’s Perspective
Children's Health Defense ^ | 04/12/21 | Ken Biegeleisen, M.D., Ph.D.

Posted on 08/14/2021 10:32:04 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

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1 posted on 08/14/2021 10:32:04 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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I Wonder what Covid vaccine will merit this author’s approval...


2 posted on 08/14/2021 10:36:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I Wonder what Covid vaccine will merit this author’s approval...

I would imagine one that is safe and has gone through the normal 10-15 year round of testing.

The real question you should be asking yourself is: Is his description of the science behind this correct, and if so, why would ANYONE consider taking these vaccines?
3 posted on 08/14/2021 10:38:40 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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Still waiting for the “ACME clownvid-19 protector. NOW with WD-40” to be released.


4 posted on 08/14/2021 10:41:00 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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Though ‘Bother it’ I may occasionally say, I never use the big, big D.


5 posted on 08/14/2021 10:48:23 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term Governors (at the time of election))
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The author actually back handedly endorses the almost completely ineffective Chinese-made Sinovac and Sinphorm vaccines - and then falsely states hardly anyone has gotten them. On the contrary, quite a few have. And they don’t work.

And a false narrative on the newer vaccine (Novavax) just now coming onto the market implying it doesn’t make sense that so few have been using them. That makes zero sense.

Where do you all come up with these people? Stop the nonsense.


6 posted on 08/14/2021 10:49:50 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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“Most sensible people are wary about “GMO,” even in food. Now we’re going to genetically modify ourselves? Why? What madness is this?”

Great line

Gonna steal that one, and promote it far and wide.
Hope you don’t mind?


7 posted on 08/14/2021 10:53:34 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuitss)
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The covid jabs are not vaccines as defined for over a century. But they had to be redefined as such, because nobody would sign up for an experimental synthetic gene-modifying mRNA spike protein injection.


8 posted on 08/14/2021 10:55:26 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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I’m not taking a vaccine for anything that is 98% survivable


9 posted on 08/14/2021 10:55:52 AM PDT by roving
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"I Wonder what Covid vaccine will merit this author’s approval..."

He mentioned three near the end of the article: Novavax, Sinopharm, and Sinovac. Apparently these three work much like traditional vaccines, without messing with RNA and DNA.
10 posted on 08/14/2021 10:57:57 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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I guess you didn’t read the article.


11 posted on 08/14/2021 10:58:05 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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He seems to favor Novavax (the spike protein without the messenger RNA) and Sinopharm and Sinovac (the Red Chinese vaccines, which he claims are made in the traditional way).


12 posted on 08/14/2021 10:58:41 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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But some adenoviruses cause serious disease, including cancer

I've posted about this before when the USAF used 1000 recruits to test an Adenovirus vaccine that was simultaneously discovered to have an "Onc" gene embedded within its DNA causing cancer in lab animals. The vaccine was discontinued and the recruits were never told they were part of an experimental respiratory vaccine...Dec. 1973-Jan 1974.

13 posted on 08/14/2021 11:00:45 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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Scientists should be free to choose just like everyone else.


14 posted on 08/14/2021 11:01:23 AM PDT by bigbob
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Genotoxicity studies would settle this hash.

But they’re not doing any.

Go figure.


15 posted on 08/14/2021 11:02:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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“why would ANYONE consider taking these vaccines?”

There not really vaccines now are they?

Experimental treatments....some like to refer as symptom supressors


16 posted on 08/14/2021 11:04:02 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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My husband and I were both carriers of Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia, a recessive genetic defect of the endocrine system. We presented no symptoms, as do most carriers in the US and were not even aware of it until we started our family. Two of our 3 children now have Non-classic congenital adrenal hyperplasia, a hydrolase-21 deficiency, with permanent, life-altering consequences.

If you mess with just one section of the DNA code, bad things can happen.

My children cannot have any of the jabs available. Studies suggest that the mRNA all pass through and attach to the endocrine system. My children cannot produce adequate steriods, which is necessary to reduce the aberrant swelling and inflammation found in some people during the protein spike. Further, they have already been exposed through me (I was hospitalized twice).

If anyone tries to push the jab on my kids, I will regard them as threats. Anyone who claims the vaccine is safe for them is a liar. Anyone who tries to shame them or me for not getting the vaccine is a POS and will be treated as such.


17 posted on 08/14/2021 11:07:11 AM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....)
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Bttt


18 posted on 08/14/2021 11:15:03 AM PDT by Cottonbay
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And a false narrative on the newer vaccine (Novavax) just now coming onto the market implying it doesn’t make sense that so few have been using them. That makes zero sense.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Can you elaborate?

From Wikipedia, Novavax COVID-19 vaccine:

Purchases[edit]

On 2 February 2021, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced that Canada has signed a tentative agreement for Novavax to produce millions of doses of its COVID-19 vaccine at a National Research Council facility in Montreal once it is approved for use by Health Canada, making it the first COVID-19 vaccine to be produced domestically in that country.[49] During the initial vaccination stages of the COVID-19 pandemic Canada's program was hampered due to relying solely on vaccines imported from Europe, India, and later the United States.

On 16 March 2021, Philippine vaccine czar Carlito Galvez Jr. announced a purchase agreement for the Novavax vaccine of 30 million doses for the national vaccination program that shall be produced by the Serum Institute of India, being the first Southeast Asian country to procure the said vaccine.[50]

On 29 March 2021, the UK government announced that their order for 60 million doses of the Novavax vaccine, which will be manufactured in the UK by FUJIFILM Diosynth Biotechnologies, will also be filled and finished in the UK by GlaxoSmithKline.[51]

On 24 June 2021, Singapore's Health Minister Ong Ye Kung announced an advance purchase agreement signed for supplies of Novavax vaccine with promising results shown, which will arrive by end-2021.[52]

On 4 August 2021, the European Commission and Novavax announced the approval of the Commission for an advance purchase agreement of 100 million doses, plus 100 million others as option, arriving from Q4 of 2021, once the EMA's approval of the vaccine, under a rolling review at the time of the contract.[53][54]

However, see this article from May 2021, Novavax delays timeline for approval, production of COVID-19 vaccine to late 2021:

Novavax on Monday again delayed its timeline for ramping up COVID-19 vaccine production and said it does not expect to seek regulatory authorization for the shot in the United States, Britain and Europe until the third quarter of 2021, sending its shares tumbling.

The Maryland-based company has repeatedly pushed back production forecasts and has struggled to access raw materials and equipment needed to make its vaccine. Novavax shares fell more than 9% in extended trading after closing nearly 9% lower on Monday...

In February, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Canada had signed a deal with Novavax to produce vaccines at a newly built facility in Montreal, though that will not be operational until towards the end of the year.

Based on the above, it looks like the author is right that the Novovax vaccine has not been brought to market and nobody outside of a few trials has been using it.

Can you explain why you challenged this? Can you explain why you called it "nonsense?"

-PJ

19 posted on 08/14/2021 11:17:01 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (* LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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Integrated form of Adenovirus DNA appears early in productive infection.

One of the early uses of this type of therapy was to insert "suicide" genes into cancer cells. Not a perfactly safe thing to do, but none of this stuff is perfectly safe, there are lots of tradeoffs.

20 posted on 08/14/2021 11:17:43 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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