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Trump bombed Taliban to negotiating table; some fear Biden let them waltz to Kandahar
Just the News ^ | August 12, 2021 - 10:48pm | John Solomon

Posted on 08/13/2021 6:44:42 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Former President Donald Trump recently gave a colorful recounting of his historic call with Taliban leader Hibatullah Akhundzada last year in the shadow of potential peace negotiations with the Afghan government.

"We're going to come back and hit you harder than any country has ever been hit," Trump said he told Akhundzada, recounting the threatened consequences if the Taliban failed to make peace. "And your village, where I know you are and where you have everybody, that's going to be the point at which the first bomb is dropped."

A few hours after that March 2020 call, Trump put an insurance payment down on the threat. When the Taliban attacked an Afghan checkpoint shortly after Trump hung up, U.S. fighter jets rained down fury on the attackers. A stung Taliban immediately called for de-escalation, saying it was committed to the "plans to implement all parts of the agreement one after another to prevent conflict escalation."

Both Trump and his successor, President Joe Biden, have been committed to the same goal of getting the United States out of a 20-year war in Afghanistan. But on execution, they have vastly differed.

Trump and his advisers relentlessly used air power to keep the Taliban in check, making the appearance of a deadly Predator drone or warplane a constant threat. In 2019, the year before the Taliban agreed to peace talks, U.S. aircraft flew 2,434 strike sorties, releasing 7,423 weapons, the highest total ever recorded by the Air Force's Central Command.

But since the Biden transition, the Taliban have refused the negotiation table and instead marched with surprising speed, capturing control of two-third of Afghanistan after the fall of its second biggest city Kandahar on Thursday.

(Excerpt) Read more at justthenews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; akhundzada; bidenforeignpolicy; taliban; trump

1 posted on 08/13/2021 6:44:42 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Biden will release foreign terrorists to them-


2 posted on 08/13/2021 6:45:41 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Hojczyk

It’s a Democrat investment in a debacle they can hang around the neck of a future Republican President. Just like Vietnam.


3 posted on 08/13/2021 6:45:59 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Hojczyk

how much of the afghan army was actually taliban?


4 posted on 08/13/2021 6:47:52 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: Hojczyk

The Democrat Party Crime Syndicate wants bigger mansions and more vacation houses.

Governing the US?

Don’t know how to do it.


5 posted on 08/13/2021 6:47:55 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: Steely Tom
"... future Republican President ..."

Hard to foresee this ever happening again.

6 posted on 08/13/2021 6:48:14 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021)
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Biden should negotiate with an offer to the taliban to come to Chicago for training if they promise to leave us alone.


7 posted on 08/13/2021 6:48:53 AM PDT by BuckeyeGOP ( )
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To: Hojczyk

All peace agreements are worthless with the Taliban. They only view them as temporary opportunities to reload


8 posted on 08/13/2021 6:49:03 AM PDT by Jonty30 (My superpower is setting people up for failure, without meaning to. )
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To: Bob434

Biden is a total waste of space.


9 posted on 08/13/2021 6:50:47 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: Steely Tom

if that’s the strategy, the biden admin tied the noose way too early. In the next 3 years it is going to devolve into an even bigger sh*t show and he will have no one to blame.


10 posted on 08/13/2021 6:51:20 AM PDT by BuckeyeGOP ( )
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To: Hojczyk

Taleban and Obama, who is pulling the strings behind Biden, are on the same side. They will relish in the expansion of the terrorist state.


11 posted on 08/13/2021 6:53:43 AM PDT by meyer (I swear to protect and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic!)
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To: Hojczyk

Apparently, Biden is fumbling the exit from Afghanistan in monumental style to underscore our loss there. The primary blame for these last 20 years there, however, goes to George W Bush. We accomplished our objective within three months of rightfully going there. The objective was to send this backward tribal society that housed terrorist training camps that did great harm to the US a strong message of force that they understand. That message consisted of bombing them and displacing their Taliban leadership, at least temporarily, with other backward warring tribal societies and groups, like the Pashtun and Northern Alliance, that were equally undemocratic, but, at least, were less hostile to the US, and then leave and allow them to return to their centuries of tribal warfare with a new mindset that the US was not to be a target of their tribal wars. Kudos to him at that point. It was when he changed the mission to “bringing democracy” to these backward warring tribes after accomplishing our objective that he blew it. Simply put, you can’t dress a warthog in the tuxedo of democracy. There are limits.

Ask yourself this. Has there been any nation in history, other than the US, that rebuilt a nation they defeated after a war? With war, it is less costly to instill fear to achieve an objective than look for love. Machiavelli was right. When it comes to the Prince’s enemies, it is better (or, at least, less costly) for the Prince to be feared than loved


12 posted on 08/13/2021 6:55:07 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: Hojczyk
Trump: "I bombed the hell out of the Taliban to give them a clear message."

Biden: "I sent air re-supply missions to the Taliban to give them a clear message."

13 posted on 08/13/2021 7:14:19 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Yarden Mariuma, sociologist at Columbia University, writes: “Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie. A concept whose meaning has varied significantly among Islamic sects, scholars, countries, and political regimes, it nevertheless is one of the key terms used by recent anti-Muslim polemicists.”[15]

They sure lied and while Trump held the Taliban to account, Biden poo pooed it away.


14 posted on 08/13/2021 7:21:11 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (I got the shot. Not because I wanted to. Because I had to, in violation of my civil rights.)
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To: Hojczyk

Oh but didn’t the Taliban get the tweet from Psaki?


15 posted on 08/13/2021 9:10:43 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Hojczyk

Nope, Afghanistan and Iraq were always going to end this way no matter how much the puffed up dolts in Bush’s circle thought they could remake the world. They had some college girl writing a new constitution for Iraq until she got herself blown up over there. Guess they weren’t keen on her ideas for modernization and emancipating women.


16 posted on 08/13/2021 11:17:29 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX (You know you're old when all your dates are with doctors. )
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To: Pining_4_TX

Iraq is different. At least it is “somewhat” of a modern nation. Afghanistan is stuck in the stone age.


17 posted on 08/13/2021 11:20:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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