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To: bagster

Haha we shall see.

Do not try to force me into a box though, “defending” Sleepy Joe. I have zero desire to do that I can assure you. LOL And not only do I have no desire to do that, I don’t believe any reasonable defense of Biden (his policies, the Democrat policies) can ever be offered.

But when it comes to defending the electoral process, I will definitely do that, unless provided incontrovertible proof to the contrary. (Because the alternative, is anarchy.) And such “proof” of electoral malfeasance cannot be “grounded” in YouTube/Rumble videos filled with inuendo/self-serving “proof”. It must be grounded in facts that every side of the “isle” must be forced to accept.

It must be something each side can accept, or else there is no real election that either side can believe in. And THAT is why it’s important this (the election results of 2020) not be trivialized or conveniently claimed to be “stolen”. If there is no confidence in the election of 2020, then why should any Republican vote in any future election? After all, if it was “stolen” in 2020, then who’s to say it won’t be in future elections?

THIS is the danger I personally see here. You want to talk about “conspiracy theories”, consider this: this whole doubt in the results of 2020 was fostered by some deep state agents to PRECISELY QUASH, enthusiasm of Republicans to vote in FUTURE elections?

Tell me Mr. Bagster (and any else who subscribe to this “theory” of 2020’s result): Who do you think benefits the MOST from Republican voters being so “unenthused” to vote in 2022? Or 2024?

Or, put another way, why, if President Trump truly believes the 2020 election was “stolen” from him on such a MASSIVE scale as is being claimed here (by Lindell and others), why do you think he (Trump, et. al, i.e, the Republican Party) is STILL encouraging YOU and everyone else reading this to STILL VOTE in 2022?

To ME, it seems the answer is simple: Trump simply wants to soothe his ego regarding 2020, YET ALSO realizes that there was no “steal” in 2020 therefore is encouraging those that still love him to vote for the Republican candidates he endorses for 2022 (i.e. to crush those who dared oppose our “dear leader”, Trump, and how dare we question him right?).

Quite simple, really, one must NOT allow oneself to be 100% loyal to TRUMP, or else, one isn’t loyal to “freedom” or “patriotism”. If one questions that he didn’t win in 2020, then one is NOT really a “patriot” and/or doesn’t really believe in individual freedom. That is what he is at least implying. If not directly saying. As un-American as Biden and the Democrat party is in policy, what TRUMP is implying (100% loyalty or else you are NOT “a real patriot) is beyond the pail, at least for those like me who aren’t enslaved to any mere man on Earth (only to the God-Man Jesus Christ).

That is his (Trump’s) current message now, (be 100% loyal to me or you are a communist) and it’s un-American. Period. Just listen to him, if you doubt me, listen without a mind clouded by blind loyalty.

Again, you seem to be an individual with a decent sense of self-deficiency (a healthy perspective to be sure). Please be sure to apply that self-criticism to these “theories” though, that’s all I ask.

It’s all I ask of myself. I can’t be comfortable until I *know* what I believe is the truth. Not that I’m “right”, because of some clever argument or some such that shuts down those who aren’t as sharp witted as I (given by God, as a gift to me and others but not all). But that what I assert/believe is the TRUTH that applies to everyone, no matter how uncomfortable to me, much less to others.

That is the task we all must engage. Or else we are just deluding ourselves. Satan wants us to delude ourselves with comfortable “facts”.


769 posted on 08/10/2021 7:30:18 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

“That is the task we all must engage. Or else we are just deluding ourselves.”

*****

You just killed the thread with a page of happy talk.


770 posted on 08/10/2021 7:40:34 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: FourtySeven

Sounds like your closing comment should have been

Resistance Is Futile


772 posted on 08/10/2021 7:45:55 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. OR THE MASK)
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To: FourtySeven

Except that it was stolen. Reason and logic is required to understand that.


777 posted on 08/10/2021 7:49:23 PM PDT by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: FourtySeven
Excellent post. I'll respond later, something came up that requires my attention.

Short version, you're way wrong. I'll try to tell you why later, if I can remember.


784 posted on 08/10/2021 8:08:33 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: FourtySeven; bagster
You're just deluding yourself, FourtySeven.

I read this single post of yours, and I can see clearly that you don't have the tools to figure out what went on in the 2020 "election".

Here's my favorite these days, and easily done:

Compare any state's county vote totals for the 2008 presidential election and the 2020 presidential "election".

The Kenyan blew the doors out for record vote totals in 2008.

ClownBiden only beat those record totals in a very few counties - all the ones that mattered.

Here's a data point for you - compare the Missouri 2008 presidential election [state total only by party] with the Missouri 2012 presidential election.

You'll find that 212,000 Democrat "voters" disappeared, never to be seen again in Missouri [the Kenyan lost the state by 4,000 votes in 2008, and the DNC decided that they could never win Missouri, so they quit stuffing ballot boxes].

It wasn't just a second-term drop in voting - there were 370,000 less Democrat "voters" in 2016 for Hillary, and only Joek Bidet got the numbers back up - 189,000 "voters" less than Obama's 2008 Missouri record.

Getting back to the county totals by state.

I did Pennsylvania and Iowa today.

You can clearly see where the "votes" were being created.

In both states, Obama's 2008 record county totals stood without challenge from The Joek - except in a couple of grouped county areas [under Democrat control].

A sudden burst of "voting zealotry" in these areas showed tens of thousands more "votes" for Joek than for Little Barry.

It's UNCANNY. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

Your problem is that our enemies the DemoCommies won't accept actual numbers.

807 posted on 08/10/2021 9:29:16 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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