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Data Suggest Vaccines Make ‘Limited Difference in Infectiousness’ of Delta Variant: PHE
The Epoch Times ^ | August 8, 2021 | Lily Zhou

Posted on 08/08/2021 7:45:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Vaccinated people infected with the Delta variant of the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, which causes COVID-19, may be as infectious as their unvaccinated counterparts, early analysis from Public Health England (PHE) suggests.

This coincides with a recent study from the United States, where similar results were observed in Wisconsin.

“Some initial findings … indicate that levels of virus in those who become infected with Delta having already been vaccinated may be similar to levels found in unvaccinated people,” PHE said in a statement.

“This may have implications for people’s infectiousness, whether they have been vaccinated or not,” it added. “However, this is early exploratory analysis, and further targeted studies are needed to confirm whether this is the case.”

The Delta variant, first identified in India, is currently the dominant CCP virus variant in England.

In a technical briefing (pdf) published on Aug. 6, PHE said that NHS Test and Trace case data show that since June 14, where cycle threshold (Ct) value data are available, the mean and median lowest Ct values are similar between vaccinated and unvaccinated people with the Delta variant, “with a median of 17.8 for unvaccinated and 18.0 for those with 2 vaccine doses.”

Ct value is the number of cycles needed to boost the viral signal in a sample when conducting an RT-PCR test.

The non-age-stratified data indicate that “whilst vaccination may reduce an individual’s overall risk of becoming infected, once they are infected there is limited difference in viral load (and Ct values) between those who are vaccinated and unvaccinated,” PHE said.

(Excerpt) Read more at theepochtimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: delta; deltavariant

1 posted on 08/08/2021 7:45:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So it’s just about useless.

Here comes the election flu again complete with lockdowns and masks


2 posted on 08/08/2021 7:48:25 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said the story was false!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Can we acknowledge that the sooner this infects everyone, the sooner it will be over?

The lockdown strategies are worse than the disease.


3 posted on 08/08/2021 7:50:48 PM PDT by Valpal1
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I would very much like to know whether I have t-cell immunity to the original strain and antibodies to Delta, but I’ll be damned if I’m gonna spend hundreds of dollars unless it’s to do battle with an as yet unknown enemy (e.g. upcoming mandates).

I’m convinced that we’re healthier than those who got the jab and I’m unafraid of current or future mutations.


4 posted on 08/08/2021 7:52:23 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Valpal1

since the agenda here is not about public health

TPTB will keep using this for their true agenda


5 posted on 08/08/2021 7:52:31 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Valpal1

Flattening the curve always meant elongating the curve. And here we go again...


6 posted on 08/08/2021 7:53:41 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Valpal1

We can acknowledge that— some can’t.


7 posted on 08/08/2021 7:53:42 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Who knows what the hell to believe. They have told so many lies just to manipulate folks.


8 posted on 08/08/2021 7:54:15 PM PDT by DOC44
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To: logi_cal869
This cost me $25 at Gerbes.


9 posted on 08/08/2021 7:55:24 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong)
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To: logi_cal869

They were offering free antibody tests at the local CVS a few months back. I didn’t volunteer and I don’t know if it was a pilot program or some other data collection service or something the taxpayers were footing for everyone (I guess since we’re paying for everything else might as well pay for that too!). Not sure if they are still offering it but I do recall the sign said “not for people who have been vaccinated in the last 30 days” whatever that is worth.


10 posted on 08/08/2021 7:55:50 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

Those aren’t T-cell tests.


11 posted on 08/08/2021 8:10:21 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The “vaccines” are working. They are a cure for Wuhan flu hysteria, not a vaccine for the flu. Hysteria sufferers who get the vaccine overcome their hysteria and drop their precautions thus get the flu and help reach herd immunity. The success of the vaccinations is measured by the number of vaccinated who get the flu.


12 posted on 08/09/2021 3:19:37 AM PDT by TheDon (Resist the usurpers)
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To: Valpal1

13 posted on 08/09/2021 3:45:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

`HERE’S THE EXPLANATION. THE VACCINE CUTS YOUR RISK OF BEING INFECTED BY 90 PERCENT. BUT IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE FEW WHO GET IT DESPITE BEING VACCINATED, YOUR ABILITY TO TRANSMIT THE VIRUS TO SOMEONE ELSE IS THE SAME AS IF YOU WERE NOT VACCINATED. WHY IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND. THE VIRUS IS NOT A MAGIC BULLET LIKE ZINC AND VITAMIN D.. J/K
IF EVERYONE GETS VACCINATED COVID WILL NOT SPREAD BECAUSE EACH PERSON WHO GETS IT WILL BE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE WHO HAVE A VERY SMALL CHANCE OF GETTING IT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL VACCINATED.


14 posted on 08/09/2021 6:05:06 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weatheryour1ST)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
From 2015, on a possibly related note...

NOT EXACTLY ROCKET SCIENCE Leaky Vaccines Enhance Spread of Deadlier Chicken Viruses

15 posted on 08/09/2021 6:09:55 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: mewzilla

Which, if the above is applicable with regard to the CoupFlu vaxxes, makes one wonder...

Is leaky a bug or a feature...?


16 posted on 08/09/2021 6:11:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: mewzilla
I'll just throw this in...

One law for bikers, another for Obama: Fury as Fauci scolds Sturgis rally as a potential super-spreader event but says NOTHING about ex-President's birthday bash

17 posted on 08/09/2021 6:15:33 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: cableguymn

“So it’s just about useless.”

Not useless for those who are fully vaccinated:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article#article_comments

88.0% effectiveness of two shots of the Pfizer vaccine against the Delta variant.


18 posted on 08/14/2021 2:52:35 PM PDT by riverdawg (Wells Fargo is my bank and I have no complaints.)
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To: riverdawg

Ya if you believe their numbers

I don’t.


19 posted on 08/14/2021 4:05:30 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said the story was false!)
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