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30 Studies and Articles Undercutting Utility of Masks for Stopping Covid
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Posted on 08/06/2021 1:21:09 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Flick Lives

and because your natural immunity doesn’t work

oh, the science of it all


21 posted on 08/06/2021 2:25:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hojczyk

“30 Studies and Articles Undercutting Utility of Masks for Stopping Covid”

Masks were only intended to slow Covid, not stop it.

Many of the most vulnerable, such as older people, need only have short exposure times such as during a quick grocery store shopping foray just after the grocery store first opens.

Stores might schedule vaccinated people to open on old vulnerable shopper mornings.


22 posted on 08/06/2021 2:44:00 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Sacajaweau

bingo! here comes the mid-term variant


23 posted on 08/06/2021 2:44:58 PM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“because your natural immunity doesn’t work”

You have to develop natural immunity to Covid first.

People can and do die of Covid before natural Covid immunity sets in.

About 600,000 Americans died before natural Covid immunity set in.

If natural immunity was always possible to develop, few people under age 65 would have ever died from infections and getting the kiddies vaccinated would be pointless.


24 posted on 08/06/2021 2:52:06 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Hojczyk
At kroger today a woman stopped an older man as he entered and pointed to the mask required sign. She gave him a mask. I'd told her to leave and come back after I'm gone if she's that worried.

Or even better....tell her there's an asteroid heading our way....

25 posted on 08/06/2021 3:00:27 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Secret Agent Man

In Israel:

“The Green Pass is an entry permit for those vaccinated or recovered.”

“Who is eligible for a Green Pass, and what limits are there on the Pass?

“Individuals who received two doses of the COVID-19 vaccine and after one full week (2 weeks for the Moderna vaccine) from the second dose – valid through 31.12.2021

“Individuals who recovered from coronavirus – valid through 31.12.2021

“Those who tested negative for COVID-19 (in a PCR swab test) – their Pass is valid for 72 hours from the time of testing and until the end of Pass’s expiration day.”

“Upon entering a place that complies with the Green Pass restrictions, you are required to present your Green Pass, along with identification (identification document, driver’s license, passport). If presenting your Green Pass on the application: You are required to present the screen with the animation.”

“Another option is to print the Green Pass and present it, including the QR code.”

https://corona.health.gov.il/en/directives/green-pass-info/

The EU offers something similar I believe.


26 posted on 08/06/2021 3:00:27 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: mewzilla

Do you know the infectious concentration of SARS CoV 2 in inhaled air necessary to initiate an infection?

Do you think that the achieved concentration is more, the same, or less after passing through two masks (source and target)?


27 posted on 08/06/2021 3:02:59 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“and because your natural immunity doesn’t work”

You may have some level of natural immunity, and if you got Covid, you do have some level of natural immunity, but it may not be enough to get through a new delta infection without vaccination too.


28 posted on 08/06/2021 3:06:52 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

I’m an older person who works at a physical job, is not overweight and has a good, well kept immune system-and I eat an organic diet and use supplements to keep it that way-out here in this rural area, there are more older-and younger- people just like me than non-working, obese, junk food gobbling unhealthy ones-there are people with chronic conditions like autoimmune disorders, organ transplant and chemotherapy recipients in every age group-and those people can be harmed by the vaccine as well as even a common cold-so you’d have to include all the vulnerable of any age in your old vulnerable shopper mornings, or be trashed for age discrimination. And how are you going to know who is really “old and vulnerable”-and not just a healthy person like me wanting to shop without the crowds, telling you a lie?

Most of us here haven’t worn masks in over a year-we got mild cases of the Wuhan virus when we were all masked up-and Spring tourists were all over the place, in and out of our businesses every day-so we have immunity-if someone is really so fragile that they are in danger of death from wuhan, then they are in just as much danger from regular flu, colds, etc-and they really should not come out around others in any flu/cold season at all...


29 posted on 08/06/2021 3:15:32 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Hojczyk
People ignore eyes as a means of how the virus can infiltrate the body. The mask articles are very interesting. Best one thus far is this one:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372

30 posted on 08/06/2021 3:15:42 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Jim Noble

“Observations during SARS suggested double-masking and other practices increased the risk of infection”

about halfway down:
https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

The NY Times suggests masks should have a tented design:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/30/science/wear-mask-covid-particles-ul.html

[That article caused my PC to go into thermal hibernation.]


31 posted on 08/06/2021 3:26:58 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Your state has WAY more tourists in Summer and Snowbirds in Winter than this area of Texas does-no beaches here-just rivers, lakes, guest ranches and cabins and not a lot of golf courses-so how did the Florida rural store and tourist trap owners of all ages fare in the Spring/Summer of 2020 as far as the Wuhan is concerned-that was pretty much before vaccine, so that natural immunity must work as well there as it does here-Florida and Texas didn’t kill a bunch of incapacitated older people in assisted living/nursing homes like new York and other states, either-so we must be doing something right...


32 posted on 08/06/2021 3:30:36 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Brian Griffin

Everything so far is showing natural immunity beats any of the vaxxes

Lasts longer, handles variants better

And no deadly spike proteins causing micro clots and pulmonary arterial hypertension that will kill you within three years on average


33 posted on 08/06/2021 3:30:53 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Texan5

“And how are you going to know who is really “old and vulnerable”-and not just a healthy person like me wanting to shop without the crowds, telling you a lie?”

The grocery store shouldn’t even try to find out for health reasons.

If some people “cheat”, so be it.


34 posted on 08/06/2021 3:41:03 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Texan5

The restaurants were open here in Florida, but had little patronage until vaccination started.


35 posted on 08/06/2021 3:43:55 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Hojczyk

Thanks for posting.


36 posted on 08/06/2021 3:51:27 PM PDT by Quilla
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To: Secret Agent Man

“Everything so far is showing natural immunity beats any of the vaxxes”

A popular saying among Italian-Americans:
“What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.”


37 posted on 08/06/2021 3:51:29 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Secret Agent Man

Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP) Data
Monthly [Claim] Data as of July 1, 2021

COVID-19 Vaccine:
Death 14
[other claimed harms available via link]

Hydroxychloroquine:
Death 15

Remdesivir:
Death 10

Ventilator:
Death 64

https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp/cicp-data


38 posted on 08/06/2021 3:55:20 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

Most of our restaurant and bar patronage out here was from local people and Summer people until after the 4th of July, when there were not-from-here tourists coming in again to eat and drink. The farm-to-table organic food restaurants had only local people coming in or ordering take-out the whole time, but no tourists...


39 posted on 08/06/2021 4:13:43 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Jim Noble

I didn’t know there was going to be a quiz, Noble.


40 posted on 08/06/2021 5:21:12 PM PDT by Walrus (I do not consent)
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