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To: fireman15

“One of the problems with your data is that the 7 3/4 month study period makes it no longer relevant.”

There’s much truth to your statement. July hospitalization data should be available soon. I will look for June hospitalization data after a good night’s sleep.

I will call it a night with this:

“After two doses, the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was 88 percent effective against symptomatic disease from the delta variant.”

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-experts-are-so-concerned-about-the-rise-of-the-delta-variant#The-delta-variants-and-vaccines

Your body, your choice. Choose as wisely as you can.


52 posted on 08/05/2021 11:31:06 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin

>> Your body, your choice. Choose as wisely as you can.

“Choose wisely” would’ve worked.


57 posted on 08/05/2021 11:53:23 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Brian Griffin

“After two doses, the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was 88 percent effective against symptomatic disease from the delta variant.”

Since you chose that as your money quote, do you even realize what the numerator and denominator are, in this celebrated “88%” figure?


63 posted on 08/06/2021 12:13:05 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Brian Griffin

12% is still a leaky vaccine. And that’s with double jabs.
And ignores the time period before it loses effectiveness entires.
And discounts the side effects.


88 posted on 08/06/2021 6:49:05 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Brian Griffin
“After two doses, the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was 88 percent effective against symptomatic disease from the delta variant.”

Thank you for your cordial and reasoned reply.

The quote and the piece you linked to is already basically meaningless. The study that the data came from was published in May from data collected in the months before that. The “Delta variant” and all other forms of the coronavirus are constantly evolving. The studies looking at the most recent data available is from the government of Israel. And they are now claiming that the most effective vaccine against current forms is the Pfizer at 39% and dropping rapidly. They measured a 20% drop in effectiveness in just two weeks.

The mRNA “vaccines” were meant to have effectiveness that would outlast standard vaccines for a constantly mutating and evolving virus. And they did for an additional month or two... the experiment was successful to a degree. But it also has proved once again that “vaccinations” are not always a worthwhile long term option for certain types of pathogens. “Break through” infections from “fully vaccinated” people is quickly becoming the rule and not the exception. And the evidence that the “vaccines” lessen the severity of the current form of the illness is very shaky at best and also relying on quickly outdated data.

Fortunately there are common sense approaches and treatments available that help with this pathogen that are now far more effective than “vaccines”. And the mortality rate and symptoms using these tools are more comparable to the common cold than a virulent strain of the flu. This is no surprise to virologists who warned from the beginning that this would be the case. And you can't really blame big pharma for taking all the money that has been thrown at them. They were well aware all along that this was going to be an ineffective but highly profitable endeavor.

My chief concern as a long term advocate for vaccination for use against preventable disease... is that after this high profile debacle almost no one will trust vaccination programs ever again. Countless millions will die in the future from fully preventable diseases with high mortality rates and no good treatment options. What a terrible waste when politics and medicine are mixed!

97 posted on 08/06/2021 8:44:38 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Brian Griffin

“Of the 205 currently at Jackson’s COVID floor, 185 of them are unvaccinated. While 20 were vaccinated, 15 of them are immunocompromised.”

https://miami.cbslocal.com/2021/07/28/jackson-memorial-hospital-covid-icu-unvaccinated-patients/

Note the date.

Note that vaccination is quite effective at preventing hospitalization.


98 posted on 08/06/2021 9:28:37 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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