Posted on 08/02/2021 7:23:46 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest
While COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective at preventing severe disease, hospitalization, and death from COVID-19 and also reduce the likelihood of mild or asymptomatic infection, a small share of fully vaccinated individuals do become infected, and some become hospitalized or have died. These rare occurrences are known as “breakthrough cases” which are to be expected, and historically known to occur with other vaccines as none is 100% effective.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) currently monitors hospitalizations and deaths, from any cause, among fully vaccinated individuals with COVID-19, but not breakthrough infections, which it stopped monitoring as of May 1. CDC presents this data in aggregate at the national level but not by state, and there is no single, public repository for data by state or data on breakthrough infections, since the CDC stopped monitoring them.
We therefore reviewed the websites and other official state sources for all 50 states and D.C. to see which are providing data on COVID-19 breakthrough cases, hospitalizations and deaths, how regularly, and what those data may tell us. We only used data from official state sources (we did not include data available only in news media reports, for example). Where a state did not provide comparable data on overall COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, or deaths reported over the period in which it captured breakthrough events, we obtained data on cases and deaths from the Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 Dashboard and on hospitalizations from the U.S. Department of Health & Human Services for the appropriate period (see methods for more detail).
Importantly, not all hospitalizations and deaths of those fully vaccinated and diagnosed with COVID-19 are due to COVID-19 or have a known cause at the time of reporting. The CDC reports that as of July 19, of 5,601 hospitalized breakthrough cases, 27% were asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19 and of 1,141 fatal cases, 26% were asymptomatic or not related to COVID-19. States differ in whether they provide this detail. DC, for example, reports that as of July 11, 50% of hospitalized breakthrough cases were due to COVID-19, 19% were not, and 31% were of unknown reason. However, few states made these distinctions. Where they did, we only included breakthrough hospitalizations and deaths due to COVID-19. In other cases, some of these breakthrough events may be due to causes other than COVID-19.
Overall, we find that:
Half of states (25) report some data on COVID-19 breakthrough events (see Table 1). Twenty-four provide data on breakthrough cases, 19 on hospitalizations and on deaths. Fifteen of these states regularly update these data, often on a weekly basis. The rest use a different frequency, have one-time reports, have stopped updating, or have an unclear reporting frequency. The data reported from these states indicate that breakthrough cases, hospitalizations, and deaths are extremely rare events among those who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 (see Figure 1). The rate of breakthrough cases reported among those fully vaccinated is well below 1% in all reporting states, ranging from 0.01% in Connecticut to 0.90% in Oklahoma. The hospitalization rate among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 ranged from effectively zero (0.00%) in California, Delaware, D.C., Indiana, New Jersey, New Mexico, Vermont, and Virginia to 0.06% in Arkansas. (Note: Hospitalization may or may not have been due to COVID-19.) The rates of death among fully vaccinated people with COVID-19 were even lower, effectively zero (0.00%) in all but two reporting states, Arkansas and Michigan where they were 0.01%. (Note: Deaths may or may not have been due to COVID-19.)
When you get a Covid test, does it distinguish between the original and the delta variant? Do over the counter tests test for this? Only the hospital tests?
Thanks!!
... and there is no single, public repository for data by state or data on breakthrough infections, since the CDC stopped monitoring them. [May 1]
“The success of the vaccinations is measured by the number of vaccinated who get the flu.”
Yes, a booster may be in order. ;^)
I do not think those that have had confirmed covid need the vaccine
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So I’ll try my question again.
Why no discussion about those with immunity not needing the vaccine?
And why the need for the sarcasm in your first post towards ‘anti-vaxxers’ when you won’t even ponder and answer my question?
There’s some reason they want literally everyone to have this vaccine. Again, you’ll chime in with your sarcasm towards people who have great reason not to trust government leaders yet you won’t chime in on this question?
My friend’s mother was vaccinated. She still got Covid and ended up in the hospital for several days.
It is the same among Hazmat professionals. The propaganda may work temporarily on the uninformed but most of those with training are able to figure out when they have been misled. The big problem here is that the purpose of the misinformation is not the public's best interest... it is pure politics.
None of the tests for Covid done for individuals can distinguish between the original and the delta variant.
My brother and sister in law were vaccinated and both still got Covid. Neither of them became seriously ill, but they did manage to spread it to other people.
PCR tests may not distinguish, but would think a test using genetic sequencing would,
I don’t understand what you want me to chime in on. I already said I do not think those that have had a proven case of covid need to be vaccinated.
As for the sarcasm feel free to peruse the comments and see the hate directed my way for standing up to the wilder conspiracy theories and false information and daring to post that the vaccines are good for some people. Those that openly wish for my death and all those that have been vaccinated are likely saddened that we are still here and the vaccines are effective.
None of the tests used for individuals can distinguish. The testing technique you are describing is not used for individuals.
I appreciate your input and while not a medical professional, have been fighting the battle on another site.
It is very frustrating to read the wild comments from people who either read questionable literature, or read reliable information and then totally misrepresent what it says.
People in general seem to have a hard time with statistics, percentages, and the concept of distributions.
This seems to be the info I was looking for
We don’t always know [the variant] when we do the regular tests,” Winter said. “We do that in epidemiological studies ... The routine testing for COVID-19 will just tell you if you have the coronavirus. It doesn’t tell you what strain you might have.”
Health officials are able to identify COVID-19 strains through genetic sequencing, a process different from a standard COVID-19 test.
For example, earlier this month, Parkland’s chief medical officer, Dr. Joe Chang, estimated that 30-40% of new COVID-19 cases in North Texas were of the delta variant. But that was an estimate because, as Chang explained, it would be impractical for Parkland to test every COVID-19 test for genetic sequencing to identify the specific variant.
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RT-PCR testing gives you a positive/negative result for presence of SARS-CoV-2, but does NOT identify the specific variant. For that, CDC takes a random sampling of positive test specimens and does whole genome sequencing. It’s through this process that the actual variant is identified.
This is done on a subset of positive specimens because it costs about $130 to sequence the genome of a single sample. This is how the statistics are compiled on which variants are active.
The data in Table 1 shows reporting data from Jan 1 2021 - dates in July mostly ending around July 20th (depends on the individual state and how up to date their data is).
Thank you for the first-hand reporting! While the state-by-state data is important to look at, I also think it’s great to have actual eyes on the ground verifying whether it matches with the personal experience of professionals directly managing this.
Thanks! This is the conclusion I came to in the comment above.
ROTF!!
We're supposed to believe that the people responsible for the so-called infrastructure bill give a rat's hairy hind end about cost?!
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