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More emboldened Fascism thanks to our new “conservative majority” Supreme Court which won’t make a definitive ruling in such cases and in many cases gives Al Gayda everything they want. Expect much more of this… nationwide.

This stance is quickly becoming the accepted norm, I fear. Another sign of the rotting corpse of our former America.

1 posted on 07/31/2021 4:47:55 PM PDT by fwdude
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What do people think this is, a free country? Move somewhere else.

Or fight back.


2 posted on 07/31/2021 4:49:58 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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Why not just do such a crappy job that they won’t want to use it???

EVERYBODY has a bad day now and then, after all


3 posted on 07/31/2021 4:50:25 PM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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More importantly, these reprobates are bring the judgment and wrath of the Lord God Almighty on this nation. There is little or no conscience, common sense, or belief in the Lord Jesus Christ in America these days. https://patburt.com/


4 posted on 07/31/2021 4:52:12 PM PDT by Maudeen (https://thereishopeinJesus.com/)
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The Supreme Chickens could have cleared this all up when they decided the CO bakery case, but they chickened out with a narrow ruling that leaves this a mess.


5 posted on 07/31/2021 4:54:47 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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Is there some kind of fine involved? I don’t see how the faggots could sue for damages since she never took the job.
Could a NeoNazi sue a jewish web designer for not making a pro-Hitler website?
Could a Christian sue a fag web designer for not making an anti-gay website?

The Judgement is illogical and the judges should be removed from the bench because they are objectively mentally ill.


6 posted on 07/31/2021 4:55:52 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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Here is the "funny" part.
This website designer violated homosexual "rights" (not found anywhere in the Constitution) but BigTech violates free speech (explicitly stated in the Constitution) DAILY. Our corrupt govt reasons that because they are a private company and do not have to provide a free speech platform.
I'm baffled why the same private company protections don't apply to the website designer (or baker).
9 posted on 07/31/2021 5:00:01 PM PDT by TxAg1981
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Take away the fact that the two people claim to be homos, does a person have the right to turn down a job? What if a painter didn’t want to paint a certain portrait? would they be legally compelled to do so?
Why do you even need to give a reason? the person just doesn’t want to do it.

Even after the judgement...The woman still isn’t going to make the website regardless. The case shouldn’t even have gone to trial.


15 posted on 07/31/2021 5:07:01 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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Just wait until they force electrical training websites to state that male to male and female to female plugs will work.


16 posted on 07/31/2021 5:07:53 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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The best way for any vendor to deal with pervert "weddings" is to do a terrible job and when the perverts complain apologize profusely (of course you won't mean it) and offer them a full refund.

"Terrible job" would mean...photos out of focus...wedding cake has too little sugar or is a horrible color...flowers that are stilted,dying,etc...

20 posted on 07/31/2021 5:19:23 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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We need to ad to the bill of rights the freedom of association and freedom not to take action. example Government can take no action to compel the associations of people outside the pretext of government it self and under this law corporation are not to be considered people. this way a person with a private business cant be forced to have an association but corporations are not given the same protection other wise you will see social media platforms using this protection to deny free speech. I am sure a real lawyer could word this better.


24 posted on 07/31/2021 5:25:50 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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GO GALT. Leave behind states with these draconian laws that protect perverts and promote their perversion.


25 posted on 07/31/2021 5:26:13 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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"More emboldened Fascism thanks to our new “conservative majority” Supreme Court which won’t make a definitive ruling in such cases and in many cases gives Al Gayda everything they want. Expect much more of this… nationwide. "

And SCOTUS certainly had their chance when a Christian business refused to be complicit in the creation of a work for the expressed purpose of celebrating something contrary to the law of God as well as the highest law of the state at the time, as it was in the Masterpiece case

34 posted on 07/31/2021 6:22:08 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save + be baptized + follow Him!)
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I don’t know what the scope of his business is but perhaps he doesn’t have to do business with anyone in Colorado.


38 posted on 07/31/2021 6:33:08 PM PDT by mdmathis6 (Having the Conch shell is no longer recognized by Dem "Flies" as giving one authority to speak.)
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The most likely scenario is that this homosexual couple used their browser to research designers of websites. They then selected an individual who either from the front page or comments they could be sure was a Christian and could obtain a refusal from them. Then as one way to celebrate their wedding they found a left-wing lawyer to file a lawsuit. What they did not do is first select a web designer sympathetic to their marriage plans.

If the courts were interested in upholding the Constitution, it would be so easy to distinguish between one who does a creative exercise as an employee and one regards their own business as an expression of Christian faith.

On that subject here is the letter I send to about 40 papers and commentators each December.

The Bill of Rights and Gay Marriage

The Bill of Rights Day on December 15 reminds one how far this country has departed from first principles. The 2015 gay marriage ruling completes a rewrite of the First Amendment. It says and used to mean, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press….”

We are familiar with the term “speech or expression’, which seems an innocuous expansion. However, “expression” enables a nearly unbounded multi-billion-dollar pornography industry.

Justice Kennedy’s majority opinion on gay marriage states, “The First Amendment ensures that religious organizations and persons are given proper protection as they seek to advocate and teach the principles that are so fulfilling and central to their lives and faith”. Such language restricts religious freedom by excluding “free exercise thereof”.

This restriction prohibits exercise of religious beliefs in business and personal lives even though the Constitution makes no distinction between individuals and their organizations, and churches. The interpretation marginalizes tens of millions of Jewish, Christian, and Muslim believers for whom God’s creation of heterosexual marriage means homosexual behaviors separate people from the love relationship God desires with humanity. Any subsequent scriptural reasoning applied must derive from that basic understanding.

Now we have a country where women, citing freedom of expression, can enter the adult film industry, but cannot cite freedom of religious expression to prevent being forced to direct their business creative activities to designing and baking wedding cakes for gay couples.

The Formal End to Judeo-Christian America http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2015/06/30/the-formal-end-to-judeochristian-america-n2018986/page/full

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES GAY MARRIAGE http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf

Wayne Cordeiro https://www.facebook.com/pastorwaynecordeiro/posts/10153325310351210

39 posted on 07/31/2021 6:54:57 PM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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There used to be a right called “liberty of contract”. The government couldn’t compel someone to contract with another party. The died with the expansion of the Commerce Clause in the early 20th Century, which was used as the basis for the Civil Rights Acts. Liberty of contract is now quite dead.


40 posted on 07/31/2021 7:01:41 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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Just agree with terms and conditions that give you complete control of content and allows you to modify the T&C at any time.

Then charge a bunch, delete content, ...


46 posted on 07/31/2021 8:07:26 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative?)
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I realize that there is a difference between a cake and a website, but you can 'poison' a website too.

I sure wouldn't want any product made by someone I forced them to make.

49 posted on 07/31/2021 8:43:55 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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God’s Word says:

“Their women exchanged the normal practices of sexual intercourse for something which is abnormal and unnatural.

Similarly the men, turning from natural intercourse with women, were swept into lustful passions for one another. Men with men performed these shameful horrors, receiving, of course, in their own personalities the consequences of sexual perversity.”

(New Testament, Romans 1:26,27)


50 posted on 07/31/2021 8:53:12 PM PDT by Cedar
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Utterly stupid. Her product’s value is predicated on her personal commitent to quality. She can easily sell a $5. product with no integrity and include in it her personal ethical position. That is her work product. Pay for it or walk away.She is under no obligation to do more.


52 posted on 07/31/2021 10:10:59 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (RISE UP O MEN OF GOD. BE DONE WITH LESSER THINGS.)
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Loses case wins respect


57 posted on 08/01/2021 9:11:10 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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