Posted on 07/30/2021 12:58:27 PM PDT by NoLibZone
The Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine is just as likely as the AstraZeneca jab to cause blood clots, a Lancet study has found.
Researchers looked at the rates of thrombosis – the formation of a blood clot – in the two vaccines compared to the risk following infection in over 1.3 million vaccinated individuals in Spain.
The study, published by The Lancet medical journal on July 20, found that both vaccines had “broadly similar” safety profiles when it comes to the side effects they may cause.
In contrast, the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines were less likely to cause thrombosis than the actual coronavirus – meaning that it was safer for people to take either vaccine than risk getting infected with COVID-19.
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Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines were less likely to cause thrombosis than the actual coronavirus – meaning that it was safer for people to take either vaccine than risk getting infected with COVID-19
Was that true in all age groups?
Was that true in women between 20 and 30 years old?
So Johnson and Johnson shouldn’t be singled out either then?
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The vaccine industry. The entire industry. Is EVIL as the day is long
They are as fraudulent as the last elections.
“In contrast, the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines were less likely to cause thrombosis than the actual coronavirus – meaning that it was safer for people to take either vaccine than risk getting infected with COVID-19.”
A completely healthy friend was killed by these blood clots. She would have easily survived COVID with a better than 99.95% chance.
Giving the healthy and children these vaccine when long-term damage is not known is the definition of insanity.
Don’t know if this is true or not, but the CDC certainly can not be trusted or anyone in government.
Dr. Charles Hoffe found 62% percent of patients who received COVID mRNA jab test positive for blood clots.
Says who? We've been lied to so much I don't know that I believe anything I hear that pertains to the Scamdemic.
Americans have to wake up to fact, hospitals, drug manufacturers,Health insurance companies are with minor exceptions,all wrapped up with the unethical, profit over every human value, corporatist, globalist and government controllers.
Trump saw it I think. He may have been waiting to act more aggressively in a second term.
Now it up to us.
Do blood clots cause TIAs? Do TIAs cause Multi-Infarct Dementia?
Just asking for a friend.
Interesting that we have not heard bad things about moderna.
“In contrast, the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines were less likely to cause thrombosis than the actual coronavirus – meaning that it was safer for people to take either vaccine than risk getting infected with COVID-19.”
I don’t think it means that. It means that the risk for thrombosis, specifically, is lower for people who take the vaccine than it is for people who are actually infected with Covid-19.
I see no indication that they factored in the likelihood of getting Covid in the first place, in some specified period of time. For most of us, in a given week, that likelihood is tiny, particularly those who are more reclusive or more careful. On the other hand, the likelihood of getting the vaccine, once injected, is pretty close to 100%.
Thank you for mentioning Dr. Charles Hoffe.
As a non-medical person, I understand from Dr. Hoffe that concern with CV19-related blood clots is this. The problem is that experimental CV19 "vaccine" spikes are (allegedly?) causing microscopic blood clots which are escaping the attention of medical doctors because they seem to be preoccupied (my word) with studying larger blood clots.
"So….just as [inaudible] is absolutely predicted to cause cancer because it is full of carcinogens, these spike proteins will predictably cause blood clots because [inaudible] they are in your blood vessels. Dr. Bhakdi then said to me the way to prove this is that we need to do a blood test called a D-dimer test, um..to find out of this is really happening. So…the problem with…the blood clots we hear about through the media, that they claim are very rare are the big blood clots. These are the ones that cause strokes and clots in your brain…those are the ones that show up on CT-scans and Angiograms and MRIs. The clots I am talking about are microscopic. These are tiny…they are literally on a capillary level and they are scattered throughout your capillary network. They are not going to show on any scan. They are just too small and too scattered. So the only way to find out for sure if this predictable mechanism of clotting was actually happening was to do this blood test called a D-dimer. And so the D-dimer is a blood test that shows a recent blood clot. It doesn’t show anything else other than a recent blood clot. It won’t show an old blood clot. It only shows new blood clots. And so I have been now doing that on my patients…um finding people who have recently had their Covid shot within the previous seven days…it needs to be between 4 and 7 days, and doing a blood test on them called a D-dimer." -- Dr. Charles Hoffe issues Vaccine warning… Deep dive on endothelial damage to blood vessels… (7.26.21)
From same OP...
"And the problem….so that causes a condition called Pulmonary Artery Hypertension."
Again, as a non-medical person, hypertension victims eventually die in about three years.
So vaccinated people probably need to start asking their doctors questions about the D-Dimer microscopic blood clot test.
Corrections, insights welcome.
They are also finding heart problems (myocarditis) in children they’re injecting. And to be honest, we do have not long term effects worked out yet for any age group.
We do know that we been lied to and had the truth censored. How in the heck can anyone know the truth?
Possibly, I’d have to look more at the study. As they say, the devil’s in the details. Reporting done about studies can reach very different conclusions from the data within the actual study. I haven’t seen this before, so I’ll have to look at it. What I had seen previously on this topic indicated that clots were not being seen with the Pfizer vaccine, so this is news to me if accurate.
At that point, I’d want to look at who exactly is experiencing clots, at what rate beyond background rates for their individual cohort, the confidence level of the data, etc. There’s pretty convincing data about the AstraZeneca vaccine and the J&J vaccine resulting in a small uptick above background and a few theories floating around about a causal mechanism. In their case, it’s rare, but if you had options that avoided the risk altogether it would make sense to do so by going with another vaccine option.
If this holds up with Pfizer, I’d be curious to see whether Moderna also sees this. And again, at what rate beyond background. If it’s 1 in a million, and it’s within a specific cohort, you simply screen for it.
Incidence for myocarditis is about 4,000 times higher for kids getting COVID-19 than it is for those getting vaccinated. The Big 10 does regular heart screening of all their athletes and found that 2.3% of the ones recovering from COVID-19 had myocarditis.
What? When did you hear that? Hypertension without cardiovascular disease takes roughly 5 years off life expectancy. Someone diagnosed with hypertension at 50 likely still has close to 25 years of life expectancy at that point. Where did you hear that people with hypertension die in 3 years?
Yep.
Lady that showed me how to inject myself with a drug they marketed said 50% of the ad is negative by law.
“Incidence for myocarditis is about 4,000 times higher for kids getting COVID-19 than it is for those getting vaccinated. The Big 10 does regular heart screening of all their athletes and found that 2.3% of the ones recovering from COVID-19 had myocarditis.”
Thanks for the info. However, that’s a problem, since the majority of people getting COVID now are the vaccinated according to the CDC.
Again, we have no long term data on the non-vaccine (since everyone’s claiming it is now a therapeutic, not a vaccine since the new data came out) unfortunately.
I don't know anyone who's versed in the topic who's seriously claiming these aren't vaccines just because they aren't 100%. We don't have any vaccines that are 100%. The smallpox vaccine is 95% effective. The pertussis (Whooping Cough) vaccine is 80% effective. The polio vaccine is the closest we have to 100%, but only after you've gotten 4 doses of it.
Moderna and Pfizer were advertised as 95% effective against the April 2020 variant. That's what was around when they were tested. 163,000,000 Americans are fully vaccinated. 5% of that is 8,150,000. So based on the data we had even before the Delta variant, we would expect to see roughly 8,150,000 breakthrough infections among those fully vaccinated. Have we seen 8 million infections? No, closer to 125,000 total. Anyone who didn't expect there to be any breakthrough infections hasn't been paying attention, and the claim that it's not a vaccine anymore because it doesn't prevent every last infection is flat wrong.
It's all strawman arguments. No claims of perfection were ever made. No vaccine is perfect. No claims were made that they would always and forever work against all future variants. They're still way ahead of where they were expected to be in terms of effectiveness. Will Delta change things? Maybe, but so far the data shows they're continuing to be extremely effective. The numbers just don't support any other conclusion.
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