Posted on 07/28/2021 8:33:51 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The Verge reports that Toyota, the world’s largest carmaker, is working behind the scenes to stall any federal mandates that would ban gas-burning cars.
According to The New York Times, a top Toyota executive has met with congressional leaders behind closed doors in recent weeks to advocate against the Biden administration’s plans to spend billions of dollars to incentivize the shift to EVs. The executive, Chris Reynolds, has argued that hybrids, like the Toyota Prius, as well as hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicles should also be in the mix.
In addition, Toyota is also pushing back against EV-friendly policy through the auto industry’s main DC-based lobbying group, the Alliance for Automotive Innovation. The group, which represents the major car companies and their suppliers and is chaired by Reynolds, has been arguing against the Biden administration’s plan to adopt the so-called California compromise as its official position, the Times reports.
Anything coming out of California is not a compromise, but let’s leave that aside for now.
The Verge reports that Toyota has lagged behind other carmakers on full battery-powered EV and that’s behind its lobbying to go slow on the full switch. That doesn’t really wash. Toyota has been an early adopter on hybrids and the bottom line is that the Japanese carmaker knows how to make a buck making cars. They make more than anyone else and they tend to make cars and trucks that are among the most reliable. Toyota is largely agnostic on what kinds of cars it has to make, it makes what it knows will sell — and cars that it knows can be powered to do what buyers want them to do.
This is the part that the Verge leaves out. It’s no secret that Toyota has cautioned the whole world on shifting to EVs.
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you can make all you want, but the grid can’t support it.
Yes more nuclear power would be essential. A lot more nuclear power. California is meeting the challenge by preparing to shut down Diablo Canyon their last nuclear generation plant. Go figure.
Toyota is now the #2 auto maker in the world.
They are positioning to become #1.
Their objective is to stop all gas from being refined in the first place. They want to eliminate all carbon based fuel. But the real objective is a significant reduction in the number of humans. When you read or listen to these nut-cases, their numbers vary from a zero (Not kidding) to a few hundred thousand. Limiting fuel production limits how much food you can grow. These people are crazy. The problem is, technology is getting to the point where someone sufficiently rich can force us all to get vaccinated with something that may eventually lead to them getting what they want. (Damn! This tinfoil itches.)
Lets not forget that Toyota has targeted our representative who sided with Trump after the election. I don’t love them at all unlike so many people here who could care less.
EVs have a niche market in the cities.
A commuter car, or self-driving taxi.
Nobody else wants one.
It’s been a giant BS story for 10 years.
Take away government subsidy and they all fail overnight.
Also, plug in a million of them in LA county to charge overnight, and the lights will go out.
Four hours to “gas up”?
Not to mention the amazing power and efficiencies achieved by conventional engine technology.
Those are what we call “fundamentals”.
And when they eliminate oil/coal/natural gas for generating electricity, and go to solar and wind power, there will be much less power available. It will be a disaster!
I would be remiss in not wondering if that's not the idea. Maybe they think we "have it too good," and collapsing the electric grid is their way of ensuring that we don't "have it too good."
Part of the reason is that electric vehicles have about 30% of the parts of an IC powered vehicle. They are seeing major simplifications in production and huge labor cuts.
But you're right -- it's still crazy given the current state of technology.
Trade my Hemi in every three years lol
And they don't have sense enough to actually see that their positions simply don't work.
Even tesla is shying away from EV and moving to fuel cells. Not because of the grid but because EV has hit a wall on reliability, range, materials and safety. They just are not practical in general terms.
Truthfully, EV's are meant for short-range hops. Long-range trips, as you mention, require lengthy charging breaks, or risk greatly shortening the battery life during fast-charging. I have had range anxiety in my gas cars while doing the SF to San Diego trips, and carry a spare gas can in the trunk. You can't easily carry a spare charge in an EV.
True. The homes in my neighborhood with EV's also have gas vehicles (usually a truck or SUV). No one has just an EV at their home.
I hear ya. About a year ago, I got gas in San Juan Capistrano and headed north on I-5, figuring I’d get gas and dinner at Pea Soup Anderson’s in Santa Nella, about 325 miles. Driving a Chevy V6 that gets decent mileage, I thought I’d have no trouble making that on one tank with no stops... and I did... barely. I was getting frantic “low fuel” warnings for the last 10 miles or so. I’ve never run out of gas in my life, but it is a stressful feeling when you get close to that especially out in an unpopulated area at night.
...and no one seems inclined to answer why: Not to mention the fact that if your route happens to take you near Skinwalker Ranch, you could find your previously full battery suddenly drained in an instant.
Yum, Anderson's Pea Soup! I used to always make a stop at Buellton where they had one. I have run out of gas a couple times, very unpleasant. One time, had to walk a couple miles on the freeway and hailed a cab, came back for my car later. My wife gave me hell for that. So that's when I decided to take a spare gas can with me for that last few miles looking for a gas station while on long trips.
Not mentioned here are the repeated EV battery fires now a chronic danger. They are even warning people not to park their EV’s in their garages. Fire departments can’t seem to put out these serious fires which can consume the vehicle and the entire house in which the vehicles are parked.
It’s not just the charging of millions of cars that is a major nightmare. There will have to be a major supply of manufactured spare batteries to quickly replace all of the dead ones that will make the vehicles useless until replaced. Today’s gasoline vehicles have batteries that can be removed and replaced by drivers who can take the dead one to the store to swap for a new one.
Nobody will be able to remove and replace the huge batteries needed to power an EV. Right now, auto manufacturers can only make batteries on a limited scale to outfit their own new EV’s. There are no universal replacement batteries available for sale to fit all the different EV’s. It’s not like being able to walk up to the kiosk at Walmart and pick up a package of AA or AAA batteries.
People will abandon their EV’s in traffic when batteries fail. When faced with immediate battery replacement at HUGE cost, many people will abandon their vehicles completely where they die.
Think of the future demand for heavy-lift vehicles needed to replace these really heavy batteries and the nightmare of battery disposal issues.
Short range of EV driving is not a painful flaw. It is a FEATURE of government’s desire to restrict our mobility and freedom to travel.
The lefties don’t care about enough electricity. Their goal is to limit travel. Period.
The only ones who will be allowed to travel is them. They will have private jets and vehicles to go anywhere they want to go. They want to control when and where we go and we will need permission.
So all this talk about not enough electricity will only lead to the rationing of electricity - which is what they really want.
Here is your next green vehicle.
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