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A Covid Vaccine Crossroads: You can oppose government mandates but still favor mass vaccination.
Wall Street Journal ^ | July 15, 2021 | WSJ Editorial Board

Posted on 07/18/2021 7:32:58 AM PDT by karpov

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To: Celerity

Roger that!!!!!


101 posted on 07/19/2021 11:47:19 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory!)
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To: Uncle Miltie
The third of Americans who haven’t been vaccinated are the potential scapegoats who will likely be blamed for any "Delta" or other COVID-19 resurgence caused by all the unvaccinated illegal aliens being secretly transported to all parts of the country - esecially red states.

Whistleblower Leaks Email Revealing Biden Admin Using US Military to Secretly Move Illegal Aliens Around the Country (VIDEO)

By Cristina Laila

Published July 14, 2021 at 7:28pm

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/whistleblower-leaks-email-revealing-biden-admin-using-us-military-secretly-move-illegal-aliens-around-country-video/

102 posted on 07/19/2021 11:52:36 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory!)
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To: Rurudyne

Agreed. I am not an anti-vaxxer. But these are not real vaccines. They are experimental mRNA drugs whose side effects - both short term and long term - have not been properly studied.


103 posted on 07/19/2021 11:55:55 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory!)
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To: Yardstick

Yes. And they should do it without using tissues from aborted fetuses in the production process!!!

Every one of the COVID-19 “vaccines” is abortion dependent.


104 posted on 07/19/2021 11:57:48 AM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory!)
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To: zipper

My doctor got angry when I asked how Covid was being treated here. I mentioned Hydroxy and Ivermectin.

She acted angry and said they send you home and only treat the symptoms like tylenol for fever etc.

In other words. You get no treatment unless you can’t breathe.


105 posted on 07/19/2021 12:09:31 PM PDT by dforest (huh)
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To: dforest

You get no treatment unless you can’t breathe.


If ventilator use increases revenues, that approach would increase revenues and deaths.

Someone could write about the economic incentives.

Given that groups at high risk for the wuhan coronavirus have more stored iron, maybe those with excess iron can reduce their risk.


106 posted on 07/19/2021 12:50:24 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: Sons of Union Vets

The thing is if the people ultimately behind them are bad … the6 may have. More than enough people disappear every year for proverbial mad scientists to work on.


107 posted on 07/19/2021 1:29:37 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: dforest

That’s close to the reaction I got from my doctor, also female. She said “those treatments don’t work” and “I read the literature, I read the New England Journal of Medicine”. She said Covid is like a sniper rifle, you can’t always guess who is going to die — it seems almost random outside the usual high-risk cases.

I told her I thought the negative perception of HCQ (plus zinc) seemed like it was because of politics. She also cautioned me about the dangers of supplements (zinc among them).

She said if I needed it they could offer a blood infusion, “which seems to be the only treatment that works”. She said they (the medical group she’s in) offered it five times so far (this was about 6 months ago). Of course she meant after you were already in the hospital.

Just two weeks before I saw her, one of her Covid patients died.

I got a scrip for Ivermectin from another doctor, not on my insurance, and carry the tablets around with me as I travel (the tablets don’t expire for at least a year). This same doctor used Ivermectin when he caught Covid and never got more than mild symptoms. Taking it as soon as your symptoms appear is most effective, he says.

I have as much “confidence” as the people that have taken the “vaccine”, though I have no worries about long-term effects from the jab. They should be worried, they’re part of the long-term experimental trial for an unapproved (but emergency-authorized) experimental drug. The thousands of deaths and immediate complications from the “vaccines” are only the short-term results — we won’t know the whole truth for years, and that’s only if the indemnified “vaccine” makers and the government are forthcoming enough to tell us. My hunch is, they won’t be.

It’s not the non-vaccinated that are killing people (as Joe says), it’s doctors like the one I had, their corporate masters, the government and their misinformation designed to deny us our informed consent and effective alternative treatments.


108 posted on 07/19/2021 3:08:10 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists.)
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To: zipper

That’s close to the reaction I got from my doctor, also female. She said “those treatments don’t work” and “I read the literature, I read the New England Journal of Medicine”. She said Covid is like a sniper rifle, you can’t always guess who is going to die — it seems almost random outside the usual high-risk cases.


It doesn’t seem random to me.

Old people are at higher risk. They have more stored iron.
Men are at higher risk. They have more stored iron.

Groups at higher risk have more stored iron.


109 posted on 07/19/2021 3:11:07 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: Rurudyne
Re:The thing is if the people ultimately behind them are bad ....

And there are plenty of bad actors associated with the COVID-19 pandemic. Anthony Fauci being apparently just one of them. Indications are that the COVID-19 virus is one that has so far not been found in nature. And it is becoming more and more evident every day that Fauci was involved in the funding of "gain of function" research - without Trump's knowledge or approval. According to The Federalist, Fauci indicated as early as 2012 that "gain of function" research was worth the risk of a pandemic.

I am not an Obama fan by any means, but it was Obama who, to his credit, stopped "gain of function" research in 2014. But Fauci was determined to start it up again and did so in 2017 - again, without Trump's knowledge or approval.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/05/28/fauci-in-2012-gain-of-function-research-into-bat-viruses-is-worth-the-risk-of-a-pandemic/

https://centipedenation.com/first-column/investigative-journalist-discovers-how-dr-fauci-restarted-gain-of-function-research-after-trump-took-office-without-senior-officials-knowing-about-it/

This is one of many reasons why Senator Rand Paul ( also a doctor) is on the warpath against Fauci.

110 posted on 07/20/2021 12:59:21 PM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory!)
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To: Sons of Union Vets

He didn’t restart it alone.

He had allies who essentially were in the habit of opposing Trump and deceiving him.

Carter couldn’t trust his own party, riddled as it was with McGovernite radicals and worse. Trump has nearly his whole party AND the government itself against him.

Had Carter had Trump’s abilities — rather than being Carter — the McGovernites might have been toast, well burnt without butter.


111 posted on 07/20/2021 1:17:49 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: dforest

https://www.bitchute.com/video/O3xt4bYw50uj/


112 posted on 07/20/2021 1:29:27 PM PDT by combat_boots (Hi God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! In God We Trust! )
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To: Rurudyne
That is correct. Fauci used low- level white house bureaucrats and bureaucratic maneuvering in order to restart gain of function research without Trump's knowledge or approval.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/fauci-reportedly-relaunched-nih-gain-of-function-research-without-consulting-white-house/

113 posted on 07/20/2021 1:55:26 PM PDT by Sons of Union Vets (Mine Eyes Have Seen the Glory!)
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To: DoodleBob

Welcome to the party, pal.


114 posted on 07/26/2021 7:25:29 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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