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Confederate Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson statues in Charlottesville officially removed
Fox News ^ | 10 July 2021 | Audrey Conklin

Posted on 07/10/2021 7:33:14 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo

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To: Mr. Mojo

Yep. I’ve been saying for 30 years that today it was Southern history and Southern symbols. Next it would be the Founding Fathers and the Stars and Stripes.

I was assured over and over again that that would never happen.

Well, here we are. Surprise!


61 posted on 07/10/2021 11:11:01 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: babble-on

The Washington Monument? The Jefferson Memorial?


62 posted on 07/10/2021 11:13:17 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Sacajaweau

This has been the Democrats’ message since the late 1980s. That’s why they can hardly win an election in the South without massive fraud.

Midwesterners are starting to catch on that the Democrats hate them too.


63 posted on 07/10/2021 11:15:19 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Mr. Mojo

This is really wrong. Why are we listening to liberal fools with regard to deleting history? It is better to keep reminders of these men around so that future generations are exposed to their history. Stop tearing down statues because some idiot says we should. Next they will want to get rid of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.


64 posted on 07/10/2021 1:53:24 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (O)
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To: wardaddy; Salamander

Monticello will be turned over to HUD and razed for Section 8 housing. Reparations.

Mount Vernon will be last but it will suffer the same fate.


65 posted on 07/10/2021 4:07:21 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Pelham

Mount Vernon is still private property.

Mount Vernon is owned and maintained in trust for the people of the United States by the Mount Vernon Ladies’ Association of the Union, a private, non-profit organization.

We don’t accept government funding and rely upon private contributions to help preserve George Washington’s home and legacy.


66 posted on 07/10/2021 4:10:50 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Sacajaweau; Mr. Mojo; Salamander; wardaddy

“Dear Southerners....We hate you and everything about you and your despicable soldiers who died for what they believed. Signed....the Dems.”

“Dems”?

I take it that you don’t often read threads here touching on the Confederacy. FR has its own rabid band of South haters and I’m quite certain that they aren’t Democrats.

Oddly enough they are notably missing from this thread. I wonder why...


67 posted on 07/10/2021 4:11:27 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Pelham
I take it that you don’t often read threads here touching on the Confederacy. FR has its own rabid band of South haters and I’m quite certain that they aren’t Democrats.

Well there may be some general "South haters" in the bunch, but the current south and the Confederacy are two very different things. Where the arguments usually take off is between those who read actual history and acknowledge the reality the Confederacy was indeed formed due to belief in slavery and white supremacy, and those who adhered to the mythology that it was about "liberty" and "states rights." The actual documentation proves beyond any doubt the former is correct and the latter is completely false.

And it isn't what someone else said about the Confederacy, it is what they said about themselves. Their own politicians said it about themselves. You don't have to read what someone else says about them or about what they said - you can read what they said themselves. You can read the editorials. I take them at their word. Their own statutes / resolutions passed to secede said that is what it was all about. You don't have to read a summary of what they wrote, or what someone said they wrote - you can read every word of these resolutions completely unfiltered. I also take them at their word. Many of these same individuals after they were defeated and slavery was wiped out got to work and started writing an alternative history to save face which many latched onto and spread around today - but what they said in the lead up and during secession, not to mention the resolutions of secession themselves, are obviously authoritative as to why they did what they did and not their efforts to whitewash history later to salvage their reputations.

Pointing this reality out is where you get lashed out at - usually just getting cussed out or the equivalent without even arguing the material you cited was false...because they don't care. It's sort of like a secular religion and they don't want their false worldview shattered by reality.

68 posted on 07/10/2021 4:32:47 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Bulwyf

Correct! They never elude to the fact that the Statue of General Lee was erected prior to the Civil War!


69 posted on 07/10/2021 5:12:40 PM PDT by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed! )
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To: goodtomato
They never elude to the fact that the Statue of General Lee was erected prior to the Civil War!

Which statue? Where? The one in Charlottesville was was commissioned in 1917 and dedicated in 1924.

70 posted on 07/10/2021 5:20:58 PM PDT by x
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To: Salamander

The parties switched. 1972.


71 posted on 07/10/2021 5:26:52 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Mr. Mojo

More erasure of history by criminal democrats.


72 posted on 07/10/2021 6:34:27 PM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: Reily

“Mount Vernon is still private property.”

I know. That isn’t going to stop the mob that wants historical sites eradicated.


73 posted on 07/10/2021 7:38:00 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Republican Wildcat

The hit dog howls. Give my regards to your comrades at the next statue smashing.


74 posted on 07/10/2021 7:40:26 PM PDT by Pelham (No more words, now we fight)
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To: Salamander

And don’t forget the extreme cultural need to REMOVE America’s first national songwriter of our Heritage-— Stephen Foster... from history.

Because of all of his “wasicst” songs... like “Camptown Ladies” or “The Old Folks at Home”, “My Old Kentucky Home” and that penetrating song of pure hatred (sarc/ on “strong”)—

“Hard Times Come Again No More”— the hateful lyrics like “Let us pause in life’s pleasures and count its many tears
While we all sup sorrow with the poor
There’s a song that will linger forever in our ears
Oh! Hard times come again no more...

While we seek mirth and beauty and music light and gay
There are frail forms fainting at the door
Though their voices are silent, their pleading looks will say Oh! Hard times come again no more”

Can’t have the Christian concern and sentiment so expressed- just can’t in a govt. as religion theocracy. The almighty Statists.

You see- these are Trotskyist/Leninist/Marxist. They are— full of hatred of ANYTHING that is our Republic and its forming. The many stresses, battles, issues and solutions the FREEDOM we have created the opportunity to CURE! Can’t have that— for it properly denies Marxist their simple solution-— mass murder of any who are not of the Communist Party. A place like Xi Ping (the new Mao psycho) China.


75 posted on 07/10/2021 9:52:46 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Charlottesville Mayor Nikuyah Walker spoke at Saturday's gathering, calling the removal "one small step forward" in an effort to dismantle White supremacy, according to VPM reporter Ben Paviour.

 



76 posted on 07/10/2021 10:20:35 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen

George Orwell was a proud socialist, anarchist, and anti-colonialist. He probably would’ve cheered as these statues were dismantled.


77 posted on 07/10/2021 10:35:19 PM PDT by DollarStoreGandalf
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To: Republican Wildcat; Pelham

Oh boo hoo

You’re selective in your virtue signaling over effling slavery...
Like poor blacks ....the only folks ever enslaved

You only care that southerners had slaves....who sold em

Who traded em

Who shipped em

Who freed them last

What Lincoln said about the precious negro

Hold that under the sam microscope

And you ancestry....perfect I assume...

You ever examine tribal Africa and slavery in North America comparison

We did them a favor ...then and now

I don’t see em fleeing back do u?

Btw....your precious Republicans suck

They betrayed Trumps landslide.....I’ll bet that doesn’t bother u much

Right

Nationa review neocon like most south bashers here


78 posted on 07/11/2021 1:09:04 AM PDT by wardaddy (Girls...in the end ....it's about them )
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To: joma89

It’s hardly just democrats ......please don’t ape dumbass talk radio


79 posted on 07/11/2021 1:19:48 AM PDT by wardaddy (Girls...in the end ....it's about them )
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To: Pelham
FR has its own rabid band of South haters and I’m quite certain that they aren’t Democrats.

Nobody hates Southerners. What we hate is whitewashing what the confederacy was and did.

Do you oppose slavery? Yes? Then you would have been assaulted or lynched in the confederacy.

The confederacy was a democrat temper tantrum that split the nation and resulted in a civil war, no different than what we're seeing from the democrats now.

The modern south has no more to do with the confederacy than modern Germans or Japanese have to do with their past regimes.

The only thing that ties you or anyone to them is choice. Fine. If you want to run around in stars and bars pretending the democrats were lying in their own declarations of causes for secession, have at it. And if you want to accuse us of being haters for not playing along, go ahead.

But please don't embarrass the right by adopting the dems' history as ours.

80 posted on 07/11/2021 1:33:38 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Still praying for our country and President Trump)
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