Posted on 07/06/2021 9:49:22 AM PDT by fishtank
Why?
Have you ever considered that the Genesis explanation has huge gaps in data because the data would not apply to the Creation Adam and placing him in a special place separated from the teaming life around the graden? I mean, the Bible does not specifically indicate things about what came before Adam was created and place int hat garden. We know however, that God created the Angel species BEFORE He planted a garden and placed the new creation, Adam, there. God created a ‘first estate’ for the created Angels. We are not given data to determine how many eons elapsed between the beginning the Word started and when Adam was created. We do have data telling us that for man 6000 years, literal solar years are appointed. This implies a counting system upon which the 6000 years are imprinted. We don’t really need the data for all the rest since we are of the species human, decended from Adam and redeemed by Jesus.
Prove you have a brain.
Yes, I have considered it, but that's not what the Word of God says. God dictated Genesis to Moses verbatim. God told the story just as He wanted it told. There was no gap mentioned. Genesis 1 tells us the general Creation account of the WORLD. Genesis 2 speaks of Adam and Eve specifically. Everything else is imaginations of men looking for something God "forgot" to tell us.
The angels were there when God created the universe according to Job.
It bothers me that men read the exact words written by Moses that He was dictated to write as Moses stood at the door of his tent and was spoken to as a friend. Then the readers start inventing imaginations that they want to think will add or subtract to the story.God said NOT to do that. The main explanation men need for the Scriptures come from Hebrew meanings, words, explanations,customs, and culture. Much of what Gentile a seeker needs is explained from that.The Hebrew Torah is perfect. Much of the problems arise in translations. You can almost guarantee someone will have misunderstandings when they Swear by the KJV and won't read anything else. The Septuagint is much more accurate than that. The Masoretic Text brought many problems into the modern Bibles we read as opposed to the Hebrew earlier in history. I believe the MT was used after around 600-800 AD vs the Septuagint at 300 BC.
As a test, get a modern Christian to read some prophesy like Rev 9:7.
Rev 9:7 The shape of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. On their heads were crowns of something like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men.
Rev 9:8 They had hair like women's hair, and their teeth were like lions' teeth.
90% of American Gentiles will say it's probably talking about something like a Helicopter in war. That comes straight out of their imaginations. Why couldn't it be a supernatural creation from God and not man made? We are always looking to insert something we didn't read.
The Bible is filled with what I call Spiritual Language. Certain words are continually used for symbolic things and many times Locusts are demonic in some way. We read in Proverbs 30:27 "The locusts have no king," But in the Septuagint Amos 7:1 says "Thus has the Lord God shewed me; and, behold, a swarm of locusts coming from the east; and, behold, one caterpillar, king Gog.
In this case "locust" has a Spiritual meaning. The KJV doesn't say this. I trust the Septuagint because it is earlier than the MT and gives info the KJV doesn't give.
By reading Genesis and sticking to the Hebrew meanings, a lot more information can be gleaned than just reading an MT-English translation that many times is actually mistranslated. Genesis 4:26 is another example. Men began to PROFANE the name of the Lord rather than call upon the name of the Lord.
The same thing happens in the New Testament. In Acts 12:4 the KJV used the word Easter. The Greek word there is "Pascha" or Passover. Easter is an abomination to God according to Ezekiel 8. Another would be Acts 20:7 says they came together on the "first day" of the week. Many Christians use this to say this is why we should meet on Sunday instead of Saturday the commanded day God gave us. The actual words there say "first Sabbaton" which is speaking of the Sabbaths between First Fruits and Pentecost. Much of what a Gentile reads leads us to make up what we want to hear rather than what was written. It's better just to read what God said and believe what exactly what God said.
If you read Genesis 1 and then read Gen 2, we can easily see a description of the Creation of the earth, and then a detailed description of the creation of man, no gaps.
So enlighten us. Please. I like to hear this.
Indeed.
You’re making my point.
When you start your post with a spurious assertion such as that one it is difficult to lend credulity to the rest of the post. As to this point in the thread no on but you has made a reference that maybe God forgot something. GOD does not 'forget' something. He also does not tell you everything due tyo your severe limitations.
Trying to characterize what I posted with the spurious notion tells me I need to have no further exchanges with you. Have nice day, Chuckles.
The Bible is very specific that there was 24 hrs between the creation of the beasts and the creation of man. There is no reference to the "eons" you say are there. There is not even a reason given for this fictitious time period. It's something you are imagining.
When Jesus was teaching His Apostles, He never mentioned "Hey, you know all that Genesis stuff, well we actually had untold millennia between the 5th day and the 6th day. Oh, and you all came from monkeys. I just couldn't tell you the truth because you are too stupid to understand what I told Moses."
Now you are on ignore. Do you know what we call someone who puts spurious words onto others, in an effort to squelch their participation? Your picture should be right next to the dictionary entry. Bye bye, closed-minded bully.
The Bible is figurative. The interval of which you speak was not a literal 24 hours.
Elsewhere in the Bible, the quantity known as pi is calculated to be exactly 3. Is that literally true?
You are correct. God created this earth in 6 literal days, then rested the 7th day, which He hallowed and sanctified, in remembrance of His creation. And yes, absolutely no gaps. Those who don’t believe that will NEVER keep the Seventh-day-Sabbath, as the 4th commandment clearly states. And, that means they bow to another’s authority, no matter how many times they claim they are born again and saved. They are in fact workers of lawlessness if they are aware, especially if they teach/instruct others to do the same. These are the same people who believe the PTR fantasy. They lack the WISDOM to discern the truth. Keeping Sunday in place of the Seventh-day-Sabbath is an abomination and those who do it deny the authority of Jesus Christ as their Creator.
Psalms 111:
10The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.
“Cardinal Gibbons claimed that Sunday-keeping was the mark of Roman Catholic authority:
Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. It could not have been otherwise, as none in those days would have dreamed of doing anything, in matters spiritual, ecclesiastical and religious without her. This act is a mark of her ecclesiastical power and authority in religious matters.”
https://www.romeschallenge.com/downloads/RomesChallenge.pdf
Now THAT is FUNNY! Good one. Great comment. May I please borrow it?
There was no death before sin. That means a literal creation week (6 days). That also means no eons, no billions of years, no monkeys evolving into humans, no single cell organisms living, then dying, etc... The word of God clearly states that the earth was created in 6 literal days. No death before Adam and Eve sinned.
Again, you are correct.
Covid-19 Jurassic Variant. What really killed the dinosaurs.
https://grisda.org/origins-21005
VI. CONCLUSIONS
This paper investigated the meaning of creation “days.” It has considered key arguments in favor of a figurative, non-literal meaning of the creation “days.” It found them to be wanting on the basis of genre investigation, literary considerations, grammatical study, syntactical usages, and semantic connections. The cumulative evidence, based on comparative, literary, linguistic and other considerations, converges on every level, leading to the singular conclusion that the designation yôm, “day,” in Genesis 1 means consistently a literal 24-hour day.
The author of Genesis 1 could not have produced more comprehensive and all-inclusive ways to express the idea of a literal “day” than the ones that were chosen. There is a complete lack of indicators from prepositions, qualifying expressions, construct phrases, semantic-syntactical connections, and so on, on the basis of which the designation “day” in the creation week could be taken to be anything different than a regular 24-hour day. The combinations of the factors of articular usage, singular gender, semantic-syntactical constructions, time boundaries, and so on, corroborated by the divine promulgations in such Pentateuchal passages as Exodus 20:8-11 and Exodus 31:12-17, suggest uniquely and consistently that the creation “day” is meant to be literal, sequential, and chronological in nature.
Among others, Catholic writer and host Dr. Ray Guarendi said God said let there be light and two “days” later in the Bible created the Sun and planets. Where did the “light” come from before the Sun?
A college professor once told me “always read the footnotes/endnotes.”
This probably answers your statement above (from the article I already linked to).
[104]Stek, 237, is correct in noting that each “day” of creation has to be the same since the “evening and morning” time expression and the numeral is in each instance identical. In other words, each creation “day” is of equal length. From this he shows that it is not defensible to argue that the first three “days” were long periods of time while the remaining “days” were 24-hour days. The latter position was argued by Edward J. Young, Studies in Genesis One (Philadelphia: Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing House, 1964), 104, and has found a recent supporter in R. Clyde McCone, “Were the Days of Creation Twenty-four Hours Long?” The Genesis Debate, 24. Young and followers are inclined to separate the lengths of creation days because they claim that the sun and moon had not been created yet until the fourth day. The question really is whether this is the case. It seems likely that on the fourth day God appointed the sun and moon to rule the day and night respectively. This appointment to the ruling function does not negate that the sun and moon were in existence before. It is possible that they were not visible to the human eye before the fourth day. Some have for this reason suggested that there may have been a vapor or cloud cover before the fourth day.
More Original Dinosaur Molecules Found
Where, in Congress?
“The LORD wraps himself in light as with a garment; he stretches out the heavens like a tent” Psalm 104:2
God doesn’t need the sun to create light.
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And He won’t need the sun in the future:
“There will be no more night. They will not need the light of a lamp or the light of the sun, for the Lord God will give them light. And they will reign for ever and ever.”
Rev 22:5
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