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DAD, WHAT's UNABHÄNGIGKEITSTAG?</
Annual Vanity ^ | July 4, 2021 | Nathan Bedford

Posted on 07/04/2021 6:14:10 AM PDT by nathanbedford

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To: nathanbedford

What a great and powerful way to educate whoever heard the words spoken by your son. And to be able to live among a people who in many ways still embrace government obedience you still have a convincing voice. Nice going. Keep sharing!


41 posted on 07/04/2021 11:37:43 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Utah: Where the world comes to see America)
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To: nathanbedford

Happy Independence Day


42 posted on 07/04/2021 11:40:35 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: Bigg Red

*It -— not I, dangit!


43 posted on 07/04/2021 11:54:28 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: nathanbedford

Excellent!


44 posted on 07/04/2021 12:23:49 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nathanbedford

Note “consent of the governed”: government exists because the people deign to allow governance in lieu of full individual exercise of rights.

Consent can be withdrawn, as is the point of the document.


45 posted on 07/04/2021 12:59:04 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (All worry about monsters that'll eat our face, but it's our job to ask WHY it wants to eat our face.)
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To: ifinnegan
I think it is a fine thing, but it is *NOT* the primary message of the Declaration of Independence. Do you know what *IS* the primary message of the Declaration of Independence?

It is that people have a right to independence. People have turned it into a statement on slavery, but it is not, nor was it ever intended to be, a statement about slavery. It is a statement about a God given right to have independence.

46 posted on 07/04/2021 1:55:49 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ifinnegan
Oh yeah. I forgot. You’re crazy.

If you mean "not brainwashed" then you are correct.

47 posted on 07/04/2021 1:57:04 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: ctdonath2
Note “consent of the governed”: government exists because the people deign to allow governance in lieu of full individual exercise of rights.

Consent can be withdrawn, as is the point of the document.

This is the only thing the document says. When people focus on the "all men are created equal" thing, they are ignoring the primary thesis of the document.

48 posted on 07/04/2021 2:00:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

“...the primary message of the Declaration of Independence?

It is that people have a right to independence.”

Agreed.

“People have turned it into a statement on slavery...”

Are slaves people? Do slaves have a right to independence.

How does “right to be independent” not include, or not be the the same as, the right not to be a slave?


49 posted on 07/04/2021 2:35:58 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan
Are slaves people? Do slaves have a right to independence.

Of course they do, but is the Declaration of Independence a message about slaves? No it is not. It had absolutely no intention of speaking about slavery, but everyone has twisted it into a discussion about slavery.

The intended meaning of "all men are created equal" spoke to the class distinctions in the British aristocracy where lords and peasants had differing rights, and it had no intention to speak on the issue of slavery though people have warped it into meaning that.

Turning it into a commentary on slavery is dishonest for that was not the intended understanding of the men who signed it nor the intended meaning of the country who sent it to King George III.

50 posted on 07/04/2021 3:11:56 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Turning it into a commentary on slavery is dishonest”

I don’t know who you think ever said that.


51 posted on 07/04/2021 3:40:52 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan
I don’t know who you think ever said that.

Wake up. Everybody says that. Virtually every reference you will ever find to "all men are created equal" will be in the context of slavery. Virtually no one speaks of it regarding the actual intent of the Declaration, which is to justify why 13 states wanted to separate from England.

People are constantly conflating the Declaration with anti-slavery, and this is just wrong historically.

52 posted on 07/04/2021 3:55:19 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

“Why do we let these so-called democrats call this a democracy when it is NOT?”
Good question...easy answer, for me, is that “democrat,” the party name, has the root word “democracy,” This give those lying bastards a “legitimacy,” as if they are good because their party is named so, not by their actions.
I know many people in that “Party,” who don’t know or care about what their party does. It is just important that they are elected, “democratically.”
They are pure HORSE GUANO! (and I know Guano)


53 posted on 07/04/2021 4:07:27 PM PDT by BatGuano ("Ya don't think that I'd go into combat with change in my pocket, do Ya?)
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To: Billthedrill

On July 3, 1776, John Adams wrote to his wife about how the Continental Congress had voted for independence the previous day, and predicted that July 2 would be celebrated henceforth as Independence Day.


54 posted on 07/04/2021 4:11:48 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: null and void

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4uqesQ_xWQ


55 posted on 07/04/2021 5:54:34 PM PDT by Brown Deer (America First!)
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To: nathanbedford

thanks, nathanbedford. one of many great posters on this forum over the years. i’ve always enjoyed your posts.


56 posted on 07/04/2021 6:04:13 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: null and void

UNABHÄNGIGKEITSTAG is when you wake up and put you underwear on backwards and don’t notice until you have to pee................You are In Depends Today...............


57 posted on 07/06/2021 5:27:21 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: nathanbedford

A part of my July 4th celebration is looking forward to your annual post.


58 posted on 07/06/2021 3:07:22 PM PDT by Sdrawkcab
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To: nathanbedford

Gave both my son and daughter copies of the The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution of the United States when they started in the 6th grade, that was a very long time ago.

Just hope they are still reading them.


59 posted on 07/06/2021 11:17:56 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Everyone says so.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/23747/23747-h/23747-h.htm

The Project Gutenberg eBook, Destruction and Reconstruction:, by Richard Taylor

The above personal account is by Zachary Taylor's son, Richard Taylor; present at the beginning and end of the War, and who was well aware of the politics which led to it, much like today - in fact.

60 posted on 07/08/2021 9:12:22 AM PDT by amorphous
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