Posted on 07/03/2021 9:35:00 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
They can’t seem to make it that way.
The question is rather moot.
Calling me an “asshat” should get you zotted. Anyone who does not fall in line with your thinking is treated shamefully. I have produced factual information that is supported by years of research. That research has been done by people who know the science. What you do is hurl insults and not one word to support your case. I have noticed this behavior among you anti-vaxxeers on these threads. It is not in keeping with how we treat fellow FReepers: “No personal attacks.”
Biggest pile of BS in the world. The exact opposite is true. The supposed vaccine targets a small part of the virus, the spike protein. Those viruses that match it get taken out by the highly selective vaccinated antibodies. What is left are variants for the vaccinated to spread. Variants.
There is good news for those who have had the virus. Your body takes a ginsu to the virus and slices and dices it up and makes antibodies against many parts of the virus not just the spike protein the mRNA ones were decided by the scientists were least likely to mutate. Broader immunity from natural immunity. Narrow immunity from the vaccines.
The narrowly immune are variant factories.
RNA replication is error prone. If the vaccines prevented infection this would not be a problem. Since it does not it is a huge problem. Since the vaccinated get infected there are literally billions of copies made in their bodies. Most errors would be non viable. The ones that are viable reproduce and are the ones spread. This is because the viable errors would be the only ones the body is not culling and the primary infection would be the variant.
In both vaccinated and unvaccinated there are also billions produced and errors, but the ones spread are the primary infectious type. Variants don’t get a foot hold.
Well said and oh so TRUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They’re getting really scared... Us non covid gene therapy takers (not anti-vaxers) may be all that’s left when it’s over.
3, 2, 1...
In both vaccinated recovered and unvaccinated there are also billions produced and errors, but the ones spread are the primary infectious type.
The more unvaccinated people there are, the more opportunities for the virus to multiply,” Schaffner said
sounds like hes calling for a round up and camps for the unvaccinated
During a radio interview, Byram Bridle claimed that the spike protein produced through COVID-19 vaccination, which generates immunity against the disease, enters the bloodstream and can damage the blood vessels and brain. Scientists who reviewed this claim for Health Feedback found it misleading because it misrepresented the results from scientific studies and was based on cherry-picked information.
Bridle’s claim was based on three assumptions:
*The spike protein from SARS-CoV-2 alone is the main cause of blood vessel damage in COVID-19 patients.
*The vaccine-derived spike protein damages the body in the same way as the spike protein produced during viral infection.
*The vaccine-derived spike protein enters the bloodstream and accumulates at harmful levels in tissues, such as the spleen, bone marrow, liver, adrenal glands, and ovaries.
The main argument to Bridle’s case is there are important differences between the spike protein produced during infection and the spike protein produced by vaccination. Furthermore, unlike infection, the spike protein from COVID-19 vaccination doesn’t get assembled into new viral particles. Instead, it contains a component that makes it attach to the cell surface. That is, even though the mRNA has the instructions to produce the entire spike protein, the dendritic cells break down much of the protein into small fragments. These fragments are presented on the outside of the host cell bound to the MHC-1 and MHC-2 complex molecules. It is these fragments that trigger the creation of the antibodies that will attack the virus’s Spike Protein and prevent its binding to the ACE-II receptors and entry into the cell.
While some of the vaccine might end up in the bloodstream, the body breaks it down.
I only apologize that I couldn’t spend more time refuting Mr. Bridle’s misinformation. Yes, the assumptions he has made have been thoroughly debunked and it would be wise not to rely on them.
The implication that the spike protein produced by COVID-19 vaccines caused thousands of adverse events “including the 4,000 deaths, and nearly 15,000 hospitalizations” are a gross misinterpretation of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Statements that say mRNA COVID-19 vaccines caused hundreds of cases of blood clots are totally unsubstantiated. That is because VAERS reports alone don’t provide evidence that COVID-19 vaccines caused an adverse event. For example, it was reported that a man died soon after a vaccination and it was assumed he died because of it. The man actually died of suicide. Reports to VAERS is raw data that can’t be used to prove a casual link. Anyone who does so is misusing VAERS.
The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.
The results provide hope that people receiving SARS-CoV-2 vaccines will develop similar lasting immune memories after vaccination.
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19
That’s Dr. William Schaffner, professor of Preventive Medicine and Medicine at the Vanderbilt University Medical Center. He has over 59 years of experience in the medical field. Why do you ridicule him?
And even vaxed people get infected. what do you call them?
I thought we were supposed to celebrate diversity.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3973242/posts?page=104#104
No comment?
It is truth.
see correction a cpl posts down from 104.
If the vaccines prevented infection, wouldn’t the existence of unvaccinared be moot?
Those are either innuendo or speculation. There's no evidence of ADE in the breakthrought stats, about 75k cases out of 3m since April 1. However some of your other points are valid. The use of the pandemic by the Democrats to sieze power for example. I was wrong over a year ago when I believed in flattening the curve with social curtailment. Better treatments would have been more effective at flattening the curve. Also there were freepers who said the virus needs to spread and produce variants. It's a kind of natural vaccination process when the variants spread rapidly but are less lethal.
While I am personally better off with the antibodies that I got from J&J, the equation is changing with te drop in cases along with less lethal variants. Everyone should decide based on their own risks and benefits.
The host cell is destroyed, but the spike protein is found free-floating in the blood, (on the order of 1 billion spike proteins per millileter of blood, according to the Harvard experiment), for ...we don't know absolutely. And we don't know if the immune system destroys them, or if the loose spike proteins attack ACE2 receptors, resulting in the side effects seen and (possibly) yet-to-be-seen.
What's fun is you pro-jab trolls are always two steps behind the current science.
Speculation at best.
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