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Alan Atchison: The Total Depravity of the Southern Baptist Convention
The Gatekeepers ^ | July 2, 2021 | The Big Brown Gadfly w/ Bobby Lopez

Posted on 07/03/2021 2:28:02 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum


Alan Atchison, editor of Capstone Report (www.capstonereport.com) joins the Big Brown Gadfly to talk about the scandals rocking the Southern Baptist Convention and launch Bobby's series, "The Total Depravity of the Southern Baptist Convention."

The Southern Baptist Convention, or SBC, has had a bad month of June. In a controversial annual meeting in Nashville, Tennessee, the messengers, or voting representatives of churches, elected as president Ed Litton of Alabama.

The election had many suspicious aspects, which this article will discuss momentarily and which should not be dismissed. But even if we take seriously Litton’s surge to the presidency, interceding events have turned his rise into a monumental embarrassment. After being paraded on MSNBC and CNN as the darling of mainstream liberal media, he ran afoul of his own constituency immediately.

Members of the SBC discovered a critical dishonesty problem in Litton’s recent service as a pastor. He had delivered multiple sermons that resembled so precisely earlier sermons by J.D. Greear that one cannot avoid the conclusion that Litton plagiarized. While some people may claim that “plagiarism” as a term does not refer to sermons the same way we would apply the word to student writing, such claims are spurious. Any respectable seminary will train pastors not to deliver sermons that other people wrote without acknowledging the source in the sermon itself.

(Excerpt) Read more at gatekeepersonline.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cult; phonyreligion; plagiarism; sermons
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To: napscoordinator

Not sure baptists are real high on the cult-like list. I can think of some other denominations that seem much ore obsessed with....weird practices.

I’ve left the SBC because the SBC has left me. And this passage explains why:

“The overly used and fallacious claim that Jesus spoke mildly about sexual transgression and instead reserved his rage at powerful and rich church leaders is tiresome enough. But it is downright ridiculous coming from a well-off megapastor who chums around with the rich and powerful...Greear cannot give permission to someone else to sin against God in the pulpit”

I’m sick of SBC presidents who have gone wobbly on sin so they can suck up to the media. They got so busing “seeking” tares that the tares have taken over the garden.


21 posted on 07/03/2021 5:20:22 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: napscoordinator

A Catholic calling a Baptist a member of a cult. That’s rich.


22 posted on 07/03/2021 5:22:50 PM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: miserare

I’ve been wearing jeans in Baptist churches for about 45 years. And the pastors have known I sometimes drink wine. Not much and never been drunk, but an occasional half-glass.

As a denomination, the SBC has much bigger issues to be concerned with. The so-called leadership seems united in ignoring the vast majority of member churches and doing whatever will please the media. I would no longer trust someone coming out of an SBC seminary.


23 posted on 07/03/2021 5:27:57 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: napscoordinator

A Catholic Church near me has a beer garden every year when they celebrate Octoberfest. Kinda odd that they encourage drunkeness. Nevertheless, I’d be interested in what you think it takes to be saved.


24 posted on 07/03/2021 5:36:30 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Whatever doesn’t kill you will make you stronger. Except bears. Bears will definitely kill you.h)
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To: rellic

I’m Catholic and some of the best people I know are Catholic... and Baptist... and Presbyterian... and Methodist... and Jewish... and atheist... and... lots more.

I’m very far from perfect but I do recall that Christ commanded us to love one another as He loved us.

That’s good enough for me.


25 posted on 07/03/2021 5:36:44 PM PDT by pax_et_bonum (God is good, He loves us, and He is always with us.)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

Read the apostles creed. Tells you everything you need to know. Google if you are ignorant of the creed.


26 posted on 07/03/2021 5:54:12 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 )
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To: napscoordinator

Papal infallibility. Mary as a coredemptrix. Salvation through works. I grew up in that cult. Thank God for the liberation of the Gospel. I’m good with Jesus Christ. I don’t need Frankie Red Shoes or a “magisterium” to dictate my relationship with my Savior to me.


27 posted on 07/03/2021 6:14:49 PM PDT by TallahasseeConservative (Isaiah 40:31)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Man oh man (pun intended)...I read through these posts and it’s no wonder why so many run away from God.

There are 33,000 +- denominations within Christianity. I’m pretty certain none of us have it 100% correct.

That said, wouldn’t it be beneficial to agree on the essentials and stop squabbling over the non-essentials?


28 posted on 07/03/2021 6:18:11 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: JamesP81
"Though when I drink a Budweiser I tend not to tell anyone at church. Except for the guys I have a Budweiser with from church :D"

Here is a joke a Baptist preacher told me.

When fishing, how do you keep your Baptist buddy from drinking all of your beer? Have two Baptist fishing friends.

29 posted on 07/03/2021 6:25:41 PM PDT by fini
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To: TallahasseeConservative

Whatever floats your boat. You get along great with those agnostics.


30 posted on 07/03/2021 7:46:59 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 )
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To: napscoordinator

Neither a Nazerite nor a Baptist mock God for offering themselves as a living sacrifice to serve Him. Only if the individual is living a pretense life in the pursuit of vanity rather than to honor God are the “lifestyle prohibitions” a negative in any way.


31 posted on 07/03/2021 9:46:48 PM PDT by LTC.Ret
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To: napscoordinator; All

I am hard core patriotic, conservative, and independent Bible/Baptist, who bleeds red, white, and blue. I don’t drink, and have been sober since I was four.

And you really don’t want me dancing, after a life of service in, and related to
“dancing” in SOCOM and the IC.

I believe in the work of that Christ alone (that Nazarene) for my salvation, and that my salvation was truly an act of His love, His payment, His mercy, and His grace in my heart.

I will admit, before I was His, I was His enemy, wanted my own way, to be my own boss, to be god of my own realm, and I was truly blind. Even my man-made, and man motivated efforts to do good were unmasked to be motivated by desire to elevate self. My righteousness was very much “filthy rags”. My righteousness was an effort to show God I was good without His horrific and gruesome payment for my son at the cross, and I didn’t need Him. (It was my humanistic pride).

I don’t even believe a human is capable of understanding the perfect righteous and holiness of God, as Scripture teaches in 1 John 1, “God is light, and in Him is no darkness at all... And man loved darkness rather than light, because man desired to do evil.”

I know we are all very much sinners, but anyone would be greatly mistaken, who believes sexual/sensual dancing is all good in God’s eyes.

I have always dreamed of being able to ball-room dance with the most beautiful elegant, and intelligent woman God ever made, my wife. But I was never given this chance.

I believe, and greatly wish I had not failed to practice Ephesians 5, which commands, “Husband’s, love your wives, as Christ loved the church, and gave [His life] Himself for her.”

While I have failed my wife and family, and I don’t drink or dance, does this make me a member of a cult?


32 posted on 07/03/2021 11:06:58 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well they got the ‘T’. Just four more letters to go.


33 posted on 07/03/2021 11:23:41 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Pelham

I swear this forum is so daft

A sane person could spend all day correcting the nonsense , lies and bigotry of the ignorant

Folks ....well at least half....vote right....but are so poorly informed

Feed the cat....

Read the headline

Vomit anecdotal hunches as fact

Many completely missed what happened at the convention....I had dinner with some Huckabee people....during the convention....the tradionalists

Traditionalists make up the body of the convention

The woke....woke primarily over rice and homosexuality and led by a few black liberal leaders and Ralph Stanley’s worthless son are attempting to hijack the leadership

And ultimately like liberals do....they will win

The faithful will simply leave....same as United Methodist have and Lutheran faithful left the reformed fools.

That is what is going on here

For me personally anyone who lives and breaths denominations is missing the point there too....speaking of dogmatic

Freepers as usual so non self aware

Plenty southern Baptists drink and dance.

I’m 63 and never saw a dancing ban....I detest booze but it has nothing to do with religion ....it’s poison for too many....

Dance banning is Church of Christ....no dancing in Anson....Texas


34 posted on 07/03/2021 11:40:34 PM PDT by wardaddy (Girls...in the end ....it’s about them )
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