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WaPost gives Biden four 'Pinocchios' for saying Second Amendment bans cannon ownership
The Hill ^ | 06/28/21 11:04 AM EDT | BY DOMINICK MASTRANGELO

Posted on 06/28/2021 8:30:54 AM PDT by RandFan

President Biden was hit with a fact-check from The Washington Post on Monday after repeating a false claim last week that the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution bars citizens from owning cannons.

“And I might add: The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own. You couldn’t buy a cannon," Biden said during a speech on gun violence in America last week.

The Post, citing experts on the Second Amendment and historical documents, reported Biden's assertion about cannons relative to the right to bear and keep arms in the United States is demonstrably false.

“Everything in that statement is wrong,” David Kopel, research director and Second Amendment project director at the Independence Institute, told the Post, adding that after the Second Amendment was ratified in 1791, “there were no federal laws about the type of gun you could own, and no states limited the kind of gun you could own.”

The Second Amendment states that “a well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Biden has made the claim about cannons and the Second Amendment at least once before, the Post noted, telling Wired magazine last year “you weren’t allowed to own a cannon during the Revolutionary War as an individual.”

"Some readers might think this is a relatively inconsequential flub. But we disagree," fact-checker Glenn Kessler wrote. "Every U.S. president has a responsibility to get American history correct, especially when he’s using a supposed history lesson in service of a political objective. The president’s push for more gun restrictions is an important part of his political platform, so he undercuts his cause when he cites faux facts."

The Post awarded Biden four "Pinocchios" for the remarks about cannons and the Second Amendment, the most possible.

"Moreover, Biden has already been fact-checked on this claim — and it’s been deemed false," Kessler wrote. "We have no idea where he conjured up this notion about a ban on cannon ownership in the early days of the Republic, but he needs to stop making this claim."


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1 posted on 06/28/2021 8:30:54 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

The WaPo, knock me down with a feather.


2 posted on 06/28/2021 8:34:15 AM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: RandFan

Biden is now and always has been a moron.......................


3 posted on 06/28/2021 8:34:30 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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4 posted on 06/28/2021 8:35:13 AM PDT by traderrob6
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"Privateers were privately owned and operated ships that in wartime captured enemy ships for profit. While privateers received a license from the government that allowed them to avoid being prosecuted for piracy, they were not a part of the official navy. So any cannons they set sail with (or that they seized from the enemy) would be private property, not the property of the government or the regular military.

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/06/30/fact-check-could-individuals-own-cannons-during-revolutionary-war/113951468/

5 posted on 06/28/2021 8:35:49 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: RandFan

BS.. you can own anything you can aford.


6 posted on 06/28/2021 8:37:20 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: RandFan

Huh, took about 5 seconds to find a nice place to buy. No FFL required. No Background Check.

https://hernironworks.com/cannons-and-mortars/


7 posted on 06/28/2021 8:37:51 AM PDT by King_Corey (Buy SILVER and GOLD to hedge against the coming market destruction of FIAT currency)
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“The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own.”

Nope. It’s the opposite. The Second Amendment doesn’t apply to people and doesn’t apply to AR-15s or even cannons. The Second Amendment limits government, and, indeed, specifically prohibits government from limiting either people or types of arms.


8 posted on 06/28/2021 8:38:56 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: RandFan
"Some readers might think this is a relatively inconsequential flub. But we disagree," fact-checker Glenn Kessler wrote. "Every U.S. president has a responsibility to get American history correct, especially when he’s using a supposed history lesson in service of a political objective. The president’s push for more gun restrictions is an important part of his political platform, so he undercuts his cause when he cites faux facts

Once again Biden puts on display his ignorance and foolishness.

In his statement he displays his ignorance of the US Constitution’s content. Something in which a US President should be well versed considering his oath to uphold and defend the same.

Given his depth of ignorance, he is foolish to make statements on what the US Constitution restricts.

If he had any knowledge of the Constitution at all he would know that most of its restrictions apply to the Federal Government and not the people.

9 posted on 06/28/2021 8:41:32 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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So not only was there clearly private ownership of cannons...there was private ownership of naval warships!


10 posted on 06/28/2021 8:41:48 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Red Badger

Biden has always been an idiot, now he is a senile idiot.


11 posted on 06/28/2021 8:42:35 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents)(Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: RandFan

cousin has a cannon. fires it off every Independence Day.

sometimes the cops stop by. no charge because no crime was committed.


12 posted on 06/28/2021 8:42:51 AM PDT by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: glimmerman70
"BS.. you can own anything you can aford."

That's right.

Just because the vast majority of people could not afford a cannon, doesn't mean they were prohibited.

Privateer's owned cannons. They also owned naval warships.

13 posted on 06/28/2021 8:44:44 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: glimmerman70

“BS.. you can own anything you can aford.”

Told a friend that one time — who’s a history professor (and a military history professor, at that) — and he disagreed. I told him you could own a tank, if you want, and he thinks you can only have weapons you can carry — his interpretation of “bear.” I said no, in this case “bear” means something you can wield, or use, not simply carry.

There’s no point to the Second if you can’t protect yourself from an oppressive government.


14 posted on 06/28/2021 8:47:19 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: AnglePark

Yep. We can own it all. Legally. They can make it expensive with the stamps and all that crap but if you can afford it then you can have it.


15 posted on 06/28/2021 8:54:21 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: rxsid

Sure did. And I am guessing if it came down to it there is a lot of very rich people that would pony up money to protect that right.


16 posted on 06/28/2021 8:56:00 AM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: rxsid

“...there was private ownership of naval warships!”

Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!


17 posted on 06/28/2021 9:06:51 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuitss)
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At the outbreak of hostilities, the Americans had on hand only a small supply of old cannons formerly used by militia companies, in coastal fortifications, and on ships.

https://www.historynet.com/arming-revolution-continental-army-get-cannons.htm

18 posted on 06/28/2021 9:08:22 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: RandFan

Same old Joe...making up stuff as he goes along.


19 posted on 06/28/2021 9:09:00 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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To: RandFan; 100American; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ..

Geez. When even the Bezos paper knocks you down, you know you’re in big trouble.

(The Washington Post has supported civilian handgun disarmament since at least the 1980s, as far as I know).

Combined PING! and, oh, go, you know, the thing!*

*DANG!


20 posted on 06/28/2021 9:11:15 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Florida: America's new free zone.)
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