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Set the items out in Chicago, Detroit, etc. Problem solved.
1 posted on 06/22/2021 2:09:34 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

They apparently also destroy a lot of what they try to deliver to me, too…


2 posted on 06/22/2021 2:11:12 PM PDT by Magnatron
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To: dynachrome

Why?


3 posted on 06/22/2021 2:12:21 PM PDT by rdl6989 ( )
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To: dynachrome

>>Set the items out in Chicago, Detroit, etc. Problem solved.<<

Seriously that is what I do in my MILs house in Mexico. I replaced a bunch of stuff like a blender and some TVs and just put the old ones (blender was rusty, the TVs were old tube types) out in front by the roadside.

Gone within an hour.


5 posted on 06/22/2021 2:16:28 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The left does not want dialogue; it wants compliance.)
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To: dynachrome
Set the items out in Chicago, Detroit, etc. Problem solved.

Kinda like bait. I'm a hunter and I don't find it very sporting to hunt over bait, but I could make an exception in this case.

10 posted on 06/22/2021 2:21:59 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dynachrome

I have an eCommerce business, and I do the same thing

I toss 90% of the returns

Just isn’t worth the time


15 posted on 06/22/2021 2:27:12 PM PDT by Trump.Deplorable
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To: dynachrome

Probably many reasons.

Bet a lot of this stuff was proven defective from bad manufacturing runs etc. Those PPE mask usually have a expiration date, Yes they are good but you have to pitch them.


17 posted on 06/22/2021 2:31:33 PM PDT by setter
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To: dynachrome

How much money does Amazon really make when they can destroy millions of products?


21 posted on 06/22/2021 2:34:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dynachrome
I don't understand why they are destroying merchandise when there is currently a huge business in purchasing Amazon returned items by the pallet or truckload thru liquidation companies. You bid on the pallets without knowing the contents.
Plenty of videos on youtube showing people making some nice scores for low prices.
23 posted on 06/22/2021 2:36:04 PM PDT by dainbramaged ( Your friends might get me in a rush, but not before I make your head into a canoe.)
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To: dynachrome

All these so-called disadvantaged people, as Communist Chinese supporting companies like Amazon throw away millions of their products.


26 posted on 06/22/2021 2:37:34 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dynachrome

Amazon filling up the landfills with perfectly good products they throw away. This is a green environmentally friendly company? What a joke.


29 posted on 06/22/2021 2:41:26 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dynachrome

probably some way of funneling off items to other people or countries, Amazin likely write it off as donation or some noble thing.


34 posted on 06/22/2021 3:19:05 PM PDT by b4me (Repeated lies does Not equal TRUTH. )
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To: dynachrome

Amazon warehouse destroys 130,000 unsold items.

Tax loophole?.


36 posted on 06/22/2021 3:23:18 PM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: dynachrome

There were a few you tubers who actually had thriving businesses buying Amazon returns sold at company auctions. They would just buy big boxes labeled “electronics” or “sporting goods” but you did not know what was in the boxes until you bought and paid for them. Surprisingly quite a decent amount of cool unopened stuff was in those auction boxes and sometimes they would get well over $1000 in retail on a couple hundred dollar investment. Just seemed too time consuming to me though.


38 posted on 06/22/2021 3:43:11 PM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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the other day, 20,000 Covid (face) masks still in their wrappers.”

Well at least something beneficial is coming out of this.

48 posted on 06/22/2021 4:58:42 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Give me a Pigfoot and a Bottle of Beer)
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To: dynachrome; Magnatron; rdl6989; freedumb2003; Cecily; ProtectOurFreedom; Larry Lucido; ...
I suspect this comparison of shipping costs I did is behind at least some of this phenomenon. I discuss for your reference below WHY there is such a disparity in shipping costs. That disparity stems from the United Nations, and it is deliberate.

I went to a website at random called ONLINE SHIPPING CALCULATOR to compare the cost of shipping a 1 lb. package from Washington DC to Beijing, and then compared to shipping the same 1 lb package in the reverse, from Beijing to Washington DC:

What I presume is behind this is called Universal Postal Union.

I knew nothing about this, then stumbled across it by accident some years ago. It has the word "union" in it, which is repulsive enough in most industrial contexts, but otherwise sounds innocuous.

It is NOT innocuous, and the Communists in China have been milking this for all it is worth and more.

The Universal Postal Service was brought into being by The Treaty of Bern in 1874 with the ostensible and laudable goal of making sure that mail could be sent between countries around the world without worrying about mail being returned to to insufficient postage because the cost of delivering mail in the receiving country might be far above that in the sending country.

From the Wikipedia entry on the Universal Postal Union:
The treaty provided that:

One important result of the Treaty was that it was no longer necessary to affix postage stamps of countries that a mailpiece passed through in transit. The UPU provides that stamps from member nations are accepted along the entire international route.

This all sounds absolutely great. Then, in 1948, the Universal Postal Union became a "specialized agency" of the United Nations when it was founded. And like every damned thing the UN has touched, the International Grifters known as the UN, Leftists all, decided in 1969 to implement "Terminal Dues" which took into account the tonnage/volume shipping between countries and...to "equalize" things and "help" developing nations, they instituted a standard progressive system of Terminal Dues, and assigned countries a value that indicated their degree of advancement. United States would be a Tier I country, and back then, a country like Communist China would be a Tier III. This meant that in addition to a simple disparity in volume of mail shipped to determine the "Terminal Dues" paid, there was also a Marxist element that required Tier I countries to pay MORE per volume/tonnage disparity. Before 1969, it was a straight up "Terminal Due" based on simple measurement of disparity in volume or tonnage.

After 1969, If you were a Tier III like Communist China, you paid X $ "Terminal Dues" for each unit of measurement. However, if you were a Tier I like the United States, you paid X $ times whatever the tier multiplied your "Terminal Dues" by, just to "equalize" things between wealthier and less wealthy nations.

I had to poke around to find this, but this document defines the tier system that determines who is the taxpayer (such as the USA) and who is the grifter who takes advantages of the subsidies provided to them by the Universal Postal Union: LINK TO UPU DOCUMENT: Classification of countries and territories for terminal dues and Quality of Service Fund (QSF) purposes for the 2018–2021 period

How Marxist of them.

And lest the lesson be lost in this current push to implement a international corporate tax to be paid to the UN, you can look to history to see just how these International Grifters handle these types of things with no elected representation: In 1974 they tripled this "Terminal Dues", and in 1979, tripled it again. Then in 1984, increased it again by 40%. This is how THEY do taxes.

But back to the subject at hand. For the Communists making cheap, crappy goods, there is such an imbalance of shipping costs that it is wholly impractical for consumers to ship many defective goods back to the manufacturer in Communist China. The cost of return shipping often outstrips the cost of manufacture and distribution paid by the consumer, so most people don't bother.

Think about that. How much money do many Communist Chinese manufacturers save on their Customer Service departments? Think of what happens when you ship a item back. Someone has to receive it. Someone has to move, label, inventory, and store it. In better companies, they might do analysis on it. And then there is the supply of a new, hopefully better working product that must be manufactured, packaged and shipped back to the consumer.

The logistical tail is huge. Think of how many Communist Chinese companies simply dispense with this. That is a significant cost. Significant. Anyone who has dealt with Chinese customer service knows it is extremely spotty. More expensive items do better, cheaper items have crappy or wholly non-existent customer service. In many cases, you cannot even contact them.

When President Trump took office, surely someone who understands business better than 99.999% of the people governing us, and better than 100% of the people who populate the UN, he was likely fully aware that we as taxpayers pay a subsidy to China (via the Universal Postal Union at the UN) to give them a significant and unfair competitive advantage, and announced he was going to withdraw the US from the Universal Postal Union. That completely threw them into an uproar "How dare he protect the interests of his own citizens!" This article from the Heritage Foundation describes it a bit: The Heritage Foundation: A U.S. Victory at the Universal Postal Union

Granted, it wasn't a complete victory to me. That would have been an elevation of China to Tier I, a simple withdrawal. The Communists still get their ill-gotten subsidy from the UPU, and we pay a little less, but we still pay.

Personally, I look to President Trump's approach to this subject of UPU Terminal Dues in the "Trade War" as evidence he was really in this fight for his country, and why so many of us admire him so much and are outraged by this fraudulent election.

55 posted on 06/23/2021 7:55:53 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: dynachrome

A local salvage store buys pallets of Amazon returns and is chocked full of all kinds of great deals.

I never knew there were Japanese soy sauce micro-breweries until I bought a $24 bottle for $3.


58 posted on 06/23/2021 8:29:37 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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