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“Just Blind Chance”: The Rising Call For “Random Selection” For College Admissions
Nation & State ^ | 6-21-2021 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 06/21/2021 6:03:32 AM PDT by blam

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To: blam

Half the population has an IQ that is below average.


41 posted on 06/21/2021 6:58:26 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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"Unfortunately, this just leads to apathy with K-12 students. Why bother, when you have no idea you’ll ever get into the college you would have previously qualified for?"

Intiguing, following on from that, if Turley's idea were to happen, then admission to preferred schools would simply be postponed a semester, when a mad transfer scramble would ensue and re-align the load.

Then you would have Ivy's carrying their initial 'random' class, and a semester later, adding the class that they wanted, while bottom schools would mostly empty out. Now that would be interesting...

42 posted on 06/21/2021 6:58:44 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Eric Coomer of Dominion Voting Systems Is The Blue Dress.)
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To: blam

“Winning at life’s lottery” now more than ever, apparently.


43 posted on 06/21/2021 6:59:01 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

In woke theology, education and ability are the result of training, not nature.

So random admissions will work just as well.


44 posted on 06/21/2021 7:01:37 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: blam

Sounds like a great plan, and it should be exactly the same with sports scholarships.

Sign up random applicants to the teams in college sports. What difference could it make?


45 posted on 06/21/2021 7:01:39 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: blam

because blacks are a failure ? Critical race theory (CRT) is nothing but teaching about the black race’s failure


46 posted on 06/21/2021 7:01:42 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: rbg81

“ In the end, they’ll throw up their hands and start giving out As as not to appear racist.”

This is SOP today in inner city schools. My sister teaches in inner city Baltimore. Lots of kids did absolutely nothing during the pandemic (didn’t take tests, didn’t turn in work, didn’t attend Zoom class) yet the administration allowed them recently to do a day’s work to catch up and get their “A.”


47 posted on 06/21/2021 7:02:57 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("Pour les vaincre il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace")
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To: blam

How to crush motivation and achievement.

Let’s go back to the stone age!

YAY!?!?!!?


48 posted on 06/21/2021 7:07:05 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (I'm changing my name to 'Spike Protein'!)
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To: babble-on

exactly, the ONLY thing those schools have going for them is that they get to select the best of the best and then pretend that they “Harvard” has something to do with their eventually success!


49 posted on 06/21/2021 7:10:29 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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The Painful Truth About Affirmative Action [Left wing Atlantic explains how affirmative action hurts black students]
50 posted on 06/21/2021 7:12:19 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

No excellence. Massive Debt. Exactly how do colleges prepare anyone to contribute to society? All of this is being done for Negroes and wetbacks. Insane.


51 posted on 06/21/2021 7:18:07 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: blam

Hey, maybe they can do this for pilots and doctors too?


52 posted on 06/21/2021 7:18:57 AM PDT by rey
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To: SeekAndFind
The University Dilemma: America’s leftist universities are indoctrinating, not teaching, and they intend to keep it that why by deliberately excluding qualified conservatives
53 posted on 06/21/2021 7:19:22 AM PDT by blam
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Hey, maybe they can do this for pilots and doctors too?

They tried this decades ago in the field of journalism, look what crap that got us.

54 posted on 06/21/2021 7:19:42 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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Harvard has an opportunity here ...

All current Harvard professors should be suspended.

Anyone with a PhD in the country will be allowed to apply for their jobs.

All Harvard teaching jobs - full professors down to teaching interns - will be given out based on a random drawing of people holding PhD’s... Jobs will be secure for 4 years - then the process is repeated...

Let’s see the effect this choice would have on Harvard’s status, ability to educate, and their quality of alumni..


55 posted on 06/21/2021 7:37:38 AM PDT by GOPJ (Rape isn't penis violence. Arson isn't fire violence. Murder isn't gun violence. CriminalsRviolence )
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To: blam

Do they support the same for doctors, or engineers?


56 posted on 06/21/2021 7:40:40 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: rbg81

Harvard has an opportunity here ...

All current Harvard professors should agree to be suspended.

Anyone with a PhD in the country should be allowed to apply for their jobs.

All Harvard teaching jobs - full professors down to teaching interns - will be given out based on a random drawing of people holding PhD’s... Jobs will be secure for 4 years - then the process is repeated...

A study will be done in 12 years showing the effect this choice would have on Harvard’s status, ability to educate, and their quality of alumni..


57 posted on 06/21/2021 7:43:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (Rape isn't penis violence. Arson isn't fire violence. Murder isn't gun violence. CriminalsRviolence )
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To: blam

Random selection has its advantages, provided everyone is treated equally once admitted and the university does not reduce their academic standards to lower qualified entrants (let them flunk out). as well as disadvantages. I like the idea that all have a chance in gaining entry. I think Asians will have a better chance of increasing their numbers at the Ivy Leagues because their pool of candidates will be large as they gravitate to the better schools and thus have a better chance of being selected. Whites also, knowing that they will not be discriminated against vs people of color.Once underqualified blacks and hispanics who are randomly selected start flunking out in high numbers, they will start applying to schools that are more matched to their qualifications and have a better chance of succeeding. The rich will not be able to buy their way in


58 posted on 06/21/2021 7:48:03 AM PDT by chuckee
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"Once underqualified blacks and hispanics who are randomly selected start flunking out in high numbers, they will start applying to schools that are more matched to their qualifications and have a better chance of succeeding."

Are you kidding? They'll change the rules again. They're not concerned about actually educating... their only concern is OUTCOME.
They'll need the correct percentages of minorities graduating too...qualified or not.

59 posted on 06/21/2021 7:56:25 AM PDT by blam
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“Never mind optional standardized tests. If you show interest, your name goes in a big hat.”

Moving along this axis of idiocy, never mind NFL tryouts, MCATs, LSATs, driver license tests, board certifications of medical specialties, USGA qualifiers, PGA Q-school, local, state and national elections, and the list goes on. "We'll just pull the winners from a big hat holding the names anyone showing interest."

60 posted on 06/21/2021 8:05:27 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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