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Tax experts slam Biden's mess of a 'double death' tax
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 17 June 2021 | ROB CRILLY

Posted on 06/17/2021 2:42:35 PM PDT by packagingguy

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To: packagingguy

All part of the leftist/globalists’ CAMPAIGNS to ELIMINATE AMERICA’S “KULAK CLASS”.


21 posted on 06/17/2021 3:20:21 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Pollard

Blackrock has no choice. They have sooo much money they don’t know where to invest it fast enough.


22 posted on 06/17/2021 3:20:37 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Who is John Galt and is he vaccinated?)
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To: Alberta's Child
If you live in a $500,000 home that you intend to leave to your children, your best bet may be to just sell it to them for $25,000 while you're still alive.

First problem is the home is not yours. Children have sold homes or thrown out parents. Second, below market sales among relatives brings in the IRS.

"Internal Revenue Service frequently watches transactions among family members and can step in and levy taxes if something doesn't look right."

https://pocketsense.com/sell-house-child-25510.html

23 posted on 06/17/2021 3:27:20 PM PDT by tlozo
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

What about the middle class whose only source of their wealth is their house? You’re assuming they have the brains and the extra money to put their house into a trust. There’s just no excuse for what the govt is planning here. This will slowly decimate what’s left of the middle class that has done “the right thing” all their lives.


24 posted on 06/17/2021 3:28:58 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Irish lives matter!)
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To: Alberta's Child

I AM a CPA, and neither of your “solutions” would work. The IRS sees undervaluations like you suggest all the time and they destroy them in audits. Losing the step-up in basis is a big deal, as that’s the current key to avoiding most of the estate tax. The best evasive action under a Biden plan would be to not file any documents upon death and hope the IRS doesn’t notice, but that won’t solve your problems if they DO notice. Note I said “evasive” not “avoidance”. Under current law, the biggest mistake I see clients make is transferring parent’s property to their names while the parents are living—they just screwed themselves out of the step-up.


25 posted on 06/17/2021 3:31:57 PM PDT by Auntie Dem (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Terrorist lovers gotta go!)
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To: Prince of Space

We are VERY middle class my mom is 92 and we just put her house into a trust it cost us $1000.00 to do this!! Her home is paid off and being in CA. the home is now worth $950,000.00! Well worth the $1000.00 for an attorney to do this!!!


26 posted on 06/17/2021 3:32:10 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: tlozo
Then the parent(s) should sell the house while they're still alive. There's no capital gains tax on the sale of a primary residence.

And if the children are the type who would throw the parents out of the home, then why would the parents leave anything to them anyway?

27 posted on 06/17/2021 3:34:16 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Alberta's Child

At an absolute minimum the wealthy individual should be gifting $15,000 a year (tax free to both parties) to all relatives (or any other individuals) that will be in the will.

If the wealthy person lives a long time (say 20 years plus) that avoids a _lot_ of taxes for everyone.

They probably should gift a lot more than that, because the gift is not taxed by the recipient and they can include any extra amount in their lifetime gift exemption.


28 posted on 06/17/2021 3:37:24 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Auntie Dem
1. I would say the best "evasive action" in the event of a Biden death tax plan would be to sell the house while the parent is still alive.

2. I worked for a professional firm that was set up as a closed corporation where the owners bought and sold shares internally at a steep discount. My understanding is that the IRS wouldn't have had any reason to destroy them in an audit because shares of the firm were worth far less to them internally than they would be on an "open market" because of all the ownership restrictions in place. It's not like any of the shareholders had the option to go out and sell their 5% of the company to Warren Buffett.

It all became moot when they sold the company years later. The capital gains taxes became due for all of the owners at the time the firm was sold. I'm sure they all paid a lot in capital gains taxes because their cost basis was very low due to the internal valuation method they used.

29 posted on 06/17/2021 3:39:57 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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Thank you for posting packagingguy. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"Tax experts slam Biden's mess of a 'double death' tax"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
Patriots are reminded that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the unconstitutionally big federal government the specific power to make laws dealing with life and death issues, the Founding States reserving such powers uniquely to the states.

The remedy for the corrupt, unconstitutionally big, post-17th Amendment ratification federal government that is oppressing patriots under its boots…

Trump's red tsunami of patriot voters need to primary federal and state candidates who don’t clearly promise to help put the federal government back into its constitutionally limited power "cage.”

30 posted on 06/17/2021 3:40:33 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: cgbg

Exactly. I should have added then to my suggestion in other posts for the parent(s) to sell the home while they are still alive.


31 posted on 06/17/2021 3:40:53 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Alberta's Child

My mother quit-claimed 1/2 of her house to me. She passed away and that made me the sole owner.
Didn’t cost a penny.


32 posted on 06/17/2021 3:42:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (Will the Younger Dryas Impact you? )
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To: Alberta's Child

Our plan was for the surviving spouse to sell it right after the other one passes. That way the basis is stepped up to market value and capital gains are set to zero.

Does that dodge you suggest really work?


33 posted on 06/17/2021 3:43:38 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("Pour les vaincre il faut de l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace")
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To: packagingguy

This is horrible for my clients, most will pay this damn double tax. We will most likely start using insurance to pay the tax bill so we can keep the family farm and businesses in tact.


34 posted on 06/17/2021 3:57:43 PM PDT by shawnlaw
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To: Alberta's Child
There's no capital gains tax on the sale of a primary residence.

This statement is only correct to (current) $250k profit per individual / $500k both spouse-owners for 2 of 5 years as primary residence. Beyond that PROFIT amount or outside of the above time frame, there IS CAPITAL GAINS on the transaction profit!

35 posted on 06/17/2021 4:01:49 PM PDT by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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To: packagingguy

“You will own nothing and you will be happy.”


36 posted on 06/17/2021 4:10:26 PM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn."m)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

There is never any discussion of indexing to inflation. Government causes inflation, then taxes the ‘gain’ caused by inflation while the purchasing power nose dives. Stealing!


37 posted on 06/17/2021 4:25:50 PM PDT by Lockbox
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To: packagingguy

This will drive capital to who-knows-where? Stupid. Typical.


38 posted on 06/17/2021 4:33:19 PM PDT by Richard Axtell ( NO*)
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To: Pollard

Bkmk


39 posted on 06/17/2021 4:34:55 PM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Amendment10
"Trump's red tsunami of patriot voters need to primary federal and state candidates who don't clearly promise to help put the federal government back into its constitutionally limited power "cage.”"

If the Marxist Democrats break the Senate filibuster, and it looks like Joe Manchin is going to switch for a sufficient price, then they will nationalize elections and they will matter no more here than in North Korea. We are on the edge of a national dictatorial police state.

40 posted on 06/17/2021 4:36:20 PM PDT by Truth29
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