Posted on 06/10/2021 2:13:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
I disagree strongly with Kurt here, which is unusual.
>Yeah, basic rifle marksmanship should be a high school graduation requirement
No. Simply no.
Basic rifle marksmanship should be a * MIDDLE SCHOOL * graduation requirement. I learned it in the 6th and 7th grade from a retired sergeant major in an old NRA program. Bolt action .22s on a 50’ range, 10 ring was about the diameter of a .22 round. Looking, I think it’s basically the Smallbore Rifle program, but it was set up with all sorts of patcher, badges and pins you could put on your shooting jacket for achieving various levels of competency.
Waiting until high school wastes years. Middle school.
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2A, in mentioning militia, informs people with two brain cells to rub together that is it about arms for war. War guns. Guns used by our men in the military.
Hunting, target shooting, collecting — those are ancillary activities.
Our Founders meant 2A for defense of our lands, against any enemy, foreign or domestic. And we have both today.
Anyone American that calls for gun bans, or calls America a democracy, is a domestic enemy, imo.
Believe there was a town in Georgia in which all persons were required to own a firearm at one time.
Yes. Here we are:
https://www.rt.com/usa/gun-control-us-nelson-obama-nra-207/
A small southern American town makes the Second Amendment right of US citizens to bear arms an obligatory duty.
Welcome to Nelson, Georgia, a rural town about 50 miles (80 km) north of Atlanta that passed on Monday the ‘Family Protection Ordinance’, which requires the head of each household to own a gun and ammunition.
“We’re making a statement,” City Council member Jackie Jarrett told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “If you plan on doing us harm, we’ll be armed.”
Jarrett emphasized that the law grants liberal loopholes for those who do not wish to follow the new legal code.
In addition to people who are mentally or physically handicapped, an exception to the law is given to “paupers or [those] who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine,” he noted.
Jarrett said he supported the legislation because he is concerned about the future of his community.
“Crime is moving on up the road,” he warned. “Subdivisions are opening up, and we don’t know who those people are.”
Admitting that the legislation is largely symbolic, Councilman Duane Cronic, who introduced the measure last month, said the law will serve as an effective deterrent to crime, comparing it to homes that warn of a security system on the premise, even when there may be none.
“This is like a big security sign for our city,” Cronic said.
Nelson City Council says the measure - which closely mirrors one adopted in the 1980s in Kennesaw, Georgia, that supporters say has tamped down crime rates - has been warmly endorsed by this community of 1,300 people.
The unanimous vote places Nelson front and center in a heated debate that has polarized the nation between gun rights advocates and those who believe it is time to lock up the country’s estimated 250 million privately-owned firearms.
US President Barack Obama, in the wake of the Sandy Hook school shooting on December 14 that left 26 people dead, the majority of them young children, has pledged to fight for gun control legislation, including universal background checks on gun purchases, an assault weapons ban, and limiting magazine capacity.
The influential National Rifle Association (NRA), however, is passionately opposed to government background checks like the one put forward by New York Senator Chuck Schumer, arguing that a national registry on gun owners would set the stage for gun confiscation.
Reuters / Jim Urquhart
In fact, the NRA says more guns – not fewer – will make American communities safer.
The powerful gun lobby - which has seen its membership numbers soar at the same time as cases of tragic shootings have increased - has called on US Congress to provide funds for the hiring of armed police officers in every US school to protect students.
Justin Dupuy, president of the Armed Citizen Project, said people have a right to protect themselves with guns because law enforcement agencies are usually arrive on the scene only after a crime has been committed.
“You have a much better chance of defending yourself with a firearm than without one,” Dupuy, told RT. “Law enforcement officials can only do their jobs to a certain extent…In a home-invasion situation, they’re only there to roll out the crime scene tape.”
If guns are taken from people, the only ones going to relinquish them are the ones who are following the rules in the first place, he added.
Not every US community, however, believes that more guns in the hands of more people will solve America’s gun violence issue.
In the state of Connecticut, for example, where the Sandy Hook tragedy occurred in the town of Newtown, a series of new gun regulations have just been passed. Following weeks of heated debate, the state will enact a new registry for high-capacity magazines, as well as background checks for gun purchases.
According to state Senator Donald Williams, Jr., Connecticut now has the “strongest and most comprehensive bill in the US” on gun control.
Meanwhile, the citizens of Nelson, Georgia, like many other communities across the country, seem determined to protect the message of the Second Amendment at any cost, guaranteeing many more passionate debates on the issue in the future.
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Here is the original one:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/us/kennesaw-georgia-gun-ownership/index.html
As the debate over guns continues in Washington and in communities across the country, there’s at least one place where owning a gun is technically required by law.
In Kennesaw, Georgia, local law says that “every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm.”
“If you’re going to commit a crime in Kennesaw and you’re the criminal – are you going to take a chance that that homeowner is a law-abiding citizen?” asked Kennesaw Mayor Derek Easterling.
Wayne Arnold is one of those citizens. Among the weapons he keeps at home are an AR-15-style .223 caliber rifle, a variety of handguns and more.
“It gives me the ability to protect myself as opposed to being somewhere where you weren’t allowed to have a firearm or it was frowned upon,” said Arnold.
“More or less a political statement”
It may be the law in Kennesaw to own a gun, but the police department says it isn’t actually enforced.
Many locals CNN spoke to assumed that the law dated back to the town’s founding, but it was actually only enacted in 1982. “It was meant to be kind of a crime deterrent,” said Lt. Craig Graydon, who’s been with the Kennesaw Police Department for over 30 years. “It was also more or less a political statement because the city of Morton Grove, Illinois, passed a city ordinance banning handguns from their city limits.”
Back then, the town had a population of just a few thousand. Over three decades later, the law is still on the books.
Today, Kennesaw, a town of about 33,000 people, has had one murder in the last six years and a violent crime rate of below 2%.
But it’s unclear whether that has anything to do with the gun law.
City officials say their relationship with the community is a key factor in maintaining public safety. “We can’t say that just that gun law contributes x number of percent to why we have a low crime rate. It may be part of it, but it needs to be looked at from a whole picture,” said Graydon. “Don’t just look at the ordinance.”
A small town that gets questions from around the country
As communities across the country re-examine their own relationship with guns in the wake of recent mass shootings, officials say they have been getting calls from all over the country – and even as far away as Norway – inquiring about the town’s gun law.
“We get a lot of calls, conversation, and it seems to keep crime control, gun safety, things like that on the minds of many of the residents, because people are constantly talking about the gun law,” said Lt. Graydon. “So that’s been somewhat of a benefit to us.”
“The first thing that most people say when they meet us, you know as a community is ‘oh, it’s not what I expected,’” said Mayor Easterling. “I don’t know what they expect of people who arm themselves with guns at home, or what they’re looking for, but really we’re not that.”
“People kind of get the image that it’s the Wild West, where everybody walks around with a firearm strapped to their side, and it’s not like that,” Arnold said. “It’s strictly a home defense system type of deal. There’s no shootouts down the street. . . .”
i have been waiting for my govt issue firearm
I found an article that said five towns around the country mandated gun ownership. It also said they didn’t fine people if they didn’t!
I know that the town of Republic, WA declared itself a “sanctuary city” - with regard to gun laws! Nobody would be prosecuted for violations of any state or Federal gun laws.
“...an exception to the law is given to “paupers”...”
Before the Revolutionary War, the folks in Concord provided arms, powder and bullets to those that did not have them or could not afford them.
In Washintonistan.
Fascinating. Assume there is there a sheriff enforcing Posse Comitatus. (sp)
Article or link?
Hm. Exists a definition of “pauper” in said law?
FWIW, the .22’s have now been replaced with pellet rifles.
My ex-FIL, a former Army sergeant that did 3 combat tours in VN, and was a high school ROTC instructor (now retired) thought it was the silliest chit he’d ever seen...
excerpt:
Chief Culp turned heads when he announced he wouldn’t enforce recently passed Initiative 1639, saying it violated the constitutional rights of citizens between the ages of 18-21 years old.
“I will stand up for citizens rights and I will not back down,” Culp said as he spoke before council and a crowd of more than 200. “I never dreamed that a police officer, stating that he will not violate anyones constitutional rights, would be such a big deal.”
The law he speaks of is a referendum (mob rule) that was passed that made the legal age to own certain firearms 21 - but that only “youth” (under 18) can use their parent’s guns. With the parent there.
Culp ran for Governor and was beaten (probably cheated) by Inslee. I don’t think he is still the police chief, and from the various article headlines I just saw it isn’t clear if the small town of Republic became a “sanctuary city” from gun laws.
An aside - Sarah Palin gave the commencement speech for the small graduating class back when she was still popular - the seniors did some sort of mail-in campaign. She had some minor connection with the small town.
Perhaps turn gym class into a biathlon training program. We could then kick some Norwegian ass in the sport - just a thought.
FWIW about the only thing I watch on TV is IBU women’s competitions.
Hmmm . . .
With fit Scandinavians dominating the sport? Sounds promising!
What I agree with is the opposite proposition. If the left demands no guns for anyone, we must propose legislation for everyone must own a gun. We keep sliding, inch by inch to the left, time to either go center by counterweighting the left’s proposals with an equal and opposite political counterweight.
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