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Granholm launches 'Earthshot' goal of reducing hydrogen energy cost to $1
TheHill ^ | 06/07/2021 | Rachel Frazin

Posted on 06/07/2021 10:17:10 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

The Energy Department announced on Monday that it was starting an “Earthshots” initiative to reduce the costs of clean energy within a decade — starting with its first goal of reducing the cost of clean hydrogen to $1 per kilogram.

The Energy Earthshots Initiative will seek to, within a decade, speed up breakthroughs in affordable and reliable clean energy, according to a department statement.

“The Energy Earthshots are an all-hands-on-deck call for innovation, collaboration and acceleration of our clean energy economy by tackling the toughest remaining barriers to quickly deploy emerging clean energy technologies at scale,” Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm said in a statement.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: earthshot; energy; granholm; hydrogen; lauches
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Honestly, this is not as crazy an idea as it seems at first blush.

https://www.businessinsider.com/car-bike-tesla-amazon-gates-bezos-climate-change-fuel-drone-2021-2?op=1

This essentially solves the distribution and storage pitfalls of hydrogen but only partially solves the economics of hydrogen production.


21 posted on 06/07/2021 11:11:51 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: BipolarBob

Great idea. We could land at night when it isn’t so hot and bright.


22 posted on 06/07/2021 11:15:02 AM PDT by Islander7 (?There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agendac)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

How is she in any way qualified to be the energy secretary? Just her ideology, I guess.


23 posted on 06/07/2021 11:27:58 AM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: shanover

Don’t tell me what you are going to do in 10 years. Tell me what you will be doing in fours years at the most. As far as I am concerned, any promises made by a politician that will happen after they are out of office is worthless.


24 posted on 06/07/2021 11:29:27 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (I got the shot. Not because I wanted to. Because I had to, in violation of my civil rights.)
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To: left that other site

Equip every vehicle, especially first responder vehicles, with a broom so they can detect a hydrogen fire.


25 posted on 06/07/2021 11:31:16 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Claiming Racism, the antidote to personal responsibility)
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To: beethovenfan

Born a Canadian
Education: University of California, Berkeley (BA), Harvard University (JD)

A Harvard lawyer, aren’t they qualified for everything ?


26 posted on 06/07/2021 11:31:38 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Mariner

There is a light responsive thin-film hydride material which in current market form, stores a half kilogram H2 in twenty pounds of storage device at zero pressure.

A kilogram of H2 is close to triple the energy content of equal weight of gasoline, and run through a fuel cell to drive electric propulsion, would give three times the range of an internal combustion drivetrain.


27 posted on 06/07/2021 11:33:10 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Is there some way of making a compound with hydrogen and carbon, that would have high energy density, be safe to store and transport and economical?

I'll take "octane" for $2,000, Alex.

28 posted on 06/07/2021 11:33:17 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Claiming Racism, the antidote to personal responsibility)
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To: D Rider

Amorphous sputter-deposited alumina works better.


29 posted on 06/07/2021 11:36:26 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Artificial. Lowering the cost means pumping in taxpayer funds.

Like using channel locks to open the petals on a rose.


30 posted on 06/07/2021 12:05:41 PM PDT by lurk ( )
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To: precisionshootist

To make hydrogen “affordable”, you manipulate the supply of other forms of energy to make them excessively expensive so that hydrogen “seems” affordable.


31 posted on 06/07/2021 12:22:09 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Corrupt Slow Joe Biden is the Bolshevik sock puppet.)
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To: Ozark Tom

Yes but it does not allow for movement, or connections like you would use in a vehicle.


32 posted on 06/07/2021 12:30:24 PM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

This is what happens when your only engineering credential says woke on it


33 posted on 06/07/2021 12:33:10 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Wow, that’s the ticket. Get the price down less than bottled water, and water falls from the sky...


34 posted on 06/07/2021 2:26:03 PM PDT by babygene (hMake America Great Again)
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To: D Rider

Toyota has a hydrogen powered car which stores it’s hydrogen in a 70MPa/10,000PSI tank. They have a functional system in place for refueling the vehicles.

A new technology under initial development with DOE since 2009 binds hydrogen to a nano-patterned magnesium alloy (hydride) film. There is no gas pressure inherent in the medium in storage mode. A ribbon of this storage medium passes through a laser scanning system to liberate the hydrogen as gas for immediate use upon a demand basis.


35 posted on 06/07/2021 2:51:28 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom

Yes but it does not allow for movement, or connections like you would use in a vehicle.


36 posted on 06/07/2021 3:21:39 PM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: Ozark Tom

At 10000 psi, you wouldn’t even need to burn the hydrogen;)


37 posted on 06/07/2021 4:10:24 PM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: Ozark Tom

So how much energy does it take to compress hydrogen to 10,000psi equivalent to 20 gals of gasoline?


38 posted on 06/07/2021 4:14:41 PM PDT by D Rider ( )
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To: LIConFem

Your physics teacher failed you and for that they should be ashamed.

https://h2tools.org/hyarc/calculator-tools/lower-and-higher-heating-values-fuels

H2 has one of the highest LHV per kg of mass than virtually any other fuel. LHV is in a standard atmosphere of N2 and O2 btw.
H2 is 119.96MJ/Kg
Conventional petrol is 43.44MJ/Kg


39 posted on 06/07/2021 7:28:36 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Zathras

” of reducing hydrogen energy cost to $1, Zathras wrote:
The biggest problem with H2 is leaks!
The molecule is so small, leaks are common, hard to find and maintain.
Probably not something you want in an car with all the vibration.”

Don’t tell this to Exxon or Valero they use pure hydrogen gas by the millions of kilograms per year at every oil refinery they run. Some how that figured out how to contain this devil of a gas while using it at thousands of psi and 800 plus degree temps. Aluminum , Teflon, austenitic stainless I could go on and on needless to say the issue has been solved decades ago but luddites gonna ludd I guess.


40 posted on 06/07/2021 7:34:20 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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