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Cause of blood clots linked to AstraZeneca and J&J Covid vaccines ‘SOLVED’ and scientists claim they know how to fix it
The Sun (U.K.) ^ | 27 May 2021 | Liam Coleman, Britta Zeltmann

Posted on 05/26/2021 5:33:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

Can’t be anything wrong. I read here on FR this was just noise in the data. We have to vac in order to earn our freedom, liberty and god given rights back. Everyone that is VAc are ok so it’s safe and effective.


41 posted on 05/26/2021 7:10:21 PM PDT by wgmalabama (Tag line for rent)
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To: grey_whiskers

Gee, I remember being told all kinds of things, like the jabs couldn’t EVER change the DNA because they stayed the hell out of the nucleus. Now they’re in the nucleus, and doing completely different f-ups. Because SCIENCE!™

LMAO. The viral vector J&J vaccine is designed to enter the cell nucleus. (still doesn't change human DNA) If you had bothered to read the information you asked me for, you'd have known, this. Or perhaps it's beyond your ability to comprehend.

42 posted on 05/26/2021 7:11:07 PM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: nickcarraway

EXCERPT:

A failure in protein folding causes several known diseases, and scientists hypothesize that many more diseases may be related to folding problems. There are two completely different problems that occur in cells when their proteins do not fold properly.

One type of problem, called “loss of function,” results when not enough of a particular protein folds properly, causing a shortage of “specialized workers” needed to do a specific job. For example, imagine that a properly folded protein is perfectly shaped to bind a toxin and break it into less toxic byproducts. Without enough of the properly folded protein available, the toxin will build up to damaging levels. As another example, a protein may be responsible for metabolizing sugar so that the cell can use it for energy. The cell will grow slowly due to lack of energy if not enough of the protein is present in its functional state. The reason the cell gets sick, in these cases, is due to a lack of one specific, properly folded, functional protein. Cystic fibrosis, Tay-Sachs disease, Marfan syndrome, and some forms of cancer are examples of diseases that result when one type of protein is not able to perform its job. Who knew that one type of protein among tens of thousands could be so important?

Proteins that fold improperly may also impact the health of the cell regardless of the function of the protein. When proteins fail to fold into their functional state, the resulting misfolded proteins can be contorted into shapes that are unfavorable to the crowded cellular environment. Most proteins possess sticky, “water-hating” amino acids that they bury deep inside their core. Misfolded proteins wear these inner parts on the outside, like a chocolate-covered candy that has been crushed to reveal a gooey caramel center. These misfolded proteins often stick together forming clumps called “aggregates.” Scientists hypothesize that the accumulation of misfolded proteins plays a role in several neurological diseases, including Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, Huntington’s, and Lou Gehrig’s (ALS) disease, but scientists are still working to discover exactly how these misfolded, sticky molecules inflict their damage on cells.

One misfolded protein stands out among the rest to deserve special attention. The “prion” protein in Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, also known as mad cow disease, is an example of a misfolded protein gone rogue. This protein is not only irreversibly misfolded, but it converts other functional proteins into its twisted state.

Link: https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2010/issue65/


43 posted on 05/26/2021 7:55:16 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: nickcarraway
BOFFINS claim to have cracked the cause of rare blood clots linked to Covid jabs and say they know how to solve it.

I know how to solve it. Don't take the "jab."

Gosh, that was easy.

44 posted on 05/26/2021 8:27:31 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: nickcarraway

I’m scheduled to get my floating mutant protein vaccine tomorrow.


45 posted on 05/26/2021 8:53:34 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: phoneman08
LMAO. The viral vector J&J vaccine is designed to enter the cell nucleus. (still doesn't change human DNA) If you had bothered to read the information you asked me for, you'd have known, this. Or perhaps it's beyond your ability to comprehend.

It's your reading comprehension that's lacking.

My quote said, "and doing completely different f-ups."

As well as your honesty and intellect.

Here's a link to one of the "Because SCIENCE!"™ sources that say these jabs don't enter the nucleus:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-12-mrna-vaccine-safety.html

Quote:"2. mRNA vaccines do not alter your DNA

A concern that some have had about the mRNA vaccines is that they could change people's DNA. But that idea is 'completely false' and has 'no scientific basis," says Prof. Goldman.

"The (vaccine) mRNA will not enter the nucleus of the cells, where our DNA is.""

But the jab in question uses an adenovirus, which does go into the nucleus.

One other problem with the adenovirus jabs (in addition to the ones mentioned in this article) is that one of you pro-jabbers posted a link which *proved* ("SCIENCE!"™ again) that spread of the mRNA is impossible. Too bad the link they posted was a Tweet from someone talking about a foreign manufacturer of an adenovirus jab where the viruses were undergoing recombination while still in the manufacturing plant. Which is "supposed" to be impossible, because certain genes were "supposed" to be removed from the adenoviruses at an earlier stage of the process. And then they lied about that batch being used in a Phase 3 trial, IIRC to The Lancet.

If it can happen by accident, it can happen on purpose.

See, if the virus undergoes recombination, it can spread the genes for spike protein to other viruses.

And, if the adenovirus (you know, "cold viruses" in common parlance), have the ability to swap genes and replicate...through a lab accident or an "accident" *cough*, then the genes for making spike protein are out in the wild.

You do recall that there was a problem with an early batch of polio vaccines which actually gave people polio, right?

Not saying it must happen, or is even particularly likely, but it's the kind of thing the smug "because SCIENCE!"™ crowd assures us is impossible.

Troll.

46 posted on 05/26/2021 9:00:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: fastrock
So what prevents the spike protein of the Sars-Cov-2 virus vax from attacking the cells of functioning organs. Reminder, no one has an off switch for these spiked proteins.

Harvard had a study a couple days back where they measured spike protein in the blood of injection recipients a day after the shot; the concentration went down as the levels of antibodies went up.

But the issue there, is that all the "best" people smugly assured us that the injections would stay harmlessly in the muscle of the injection site; despite experiments in mice which showed mRNA in all sorts of tissues, including crossing the blood-brain barrier, 24 hours later.

Question is, what happens with booster jabs? (Remember, by definition, the booster jab is "necessary" because the immunity has *dropped off*...so the mRNA and spike proteins for the second jab won't all automatically get neutralized.)

47 posted on 05/26/2021 9:03:50 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: nickcarraway

No they don’t. Read the history of these psychopathic morons

https://phoreveryoung.wordpress.com/2015/05/14/the-worst-cover-up-in-the-history-of-the-world-vaccinations-are-monkey-business/


48 posted on 05/26/2021 9:06:30 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (Arizona !!!! Now the TRUMP TRAIN is getting back on TRACK ! TRUTH! FREEDOM ! LIBERTY! )
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To: grey_whiskers

We can fix these treatments, and we now think we know how.

DO THE RESPONSIBLE THING, TAKE ONE SHOT FOR TEAM USA, BETTER YET, take two....this year, maybe a third early next spring.


49 posted on 05/26/2021 9:17:24 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (/)
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To: nickcarraway
"According to Marschalek’s theory, this can trigger blood clots in roughly one in 100,000 people."

It's amazing that for such rare occurrences, they've found partial evidence to support a hypothesis worthy of followup.

50 posted on 05/26/2021 10:31:31 PM PDT by familyop (Natural born slaves are easily led to distrust and hate their intellectual benefactors.)
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To: Truthoverpower

Thank you for that link, and don’t let em get you down.


51 posted on 05/26/2021 10:32:27 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (/)
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To: grey_whiskers

My quote said, "and doing completely different f-ups."

No, that was not your quote. That is just a snippet of your actual imbecilic statement feigning surprise that the viral vector vaccine in question enters the cell nucleus as it's designed to do.

Troll? You're no different than the typical liberal projecting YOUR own behavior.

52 posted on 05/27/2021 3:38:07 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: grey_whiskers

From the article:
“ By comparison, MRNA-based vaccines, like the Pfizer and Moderna jabs, deliver the spike’s genetic material to the cell fluid - it never enters the nucleus.”
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Did you even read it?

The focus here is AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson vaccines.
Both use more traditional methods of vaccine delivery.

Neither use mRNA like Pfizer or Moderna.

The issue you and other Anti-Covid-Vax Trolls were yelling about was the new use of the mRNA cells and those vaccines altering DNA, which of course they do Not.

Sod Off Troll!

We see your game.


53 posted on 05/27/2021 3:58:30 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: nickcarraway

Solved? There are those still denying blood clots are even occurring.


54 posted on 05/27/2021 4:14:10 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: David Chase
The issue you and other Anti-Covid-Vax Trolls were yelling about was the new use of the mRNA cells and those vaccines altering DNA, which of course they do Not.

You're projecting.

There are all kinds of ankle-biting trolls like you who shout "Because SCIENCE!"™ about stuff they don't understand.

My post clearly said, "and doing completely different f-ups."

The issue is that there are demonstrated problems, with the jabs that enter the nucleus, which have nothing to do with altering DNA.

And the other issues is simply the human trials were too small and hurried to show a lot of the effects.

Here's a premature link from webmd about how safe the jabs are:

"How safe is the COVID-19 vaccine? Paul Offit, MD, a member of the FDA advisory panel that recommended the vaccine’s use, says rigorous clinical trials of the shot identified no safety concerns, despite its sped-up production.

“These vaccines were subjected to large phase III clinical trials,” says Offit, a vaccine expert at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia. “Regarding safety, there was an insistence by the FDA that at least tens of thousands of people be observed for 2 months after the final dose to make sure that there were no … uncommon side effects.” "

As far as "Sod off, troll!" you're plagiarizing; and I'm not a troll, but you are.

Take MY advice, and Sod Off.

55 posted on 05/27/2021 8:41:01 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: phoneman08
The only surprise was among the "Because SCIENCE!"™ crowd when practice turned out other than their untested wishful-thinking theories.

Because nobody predicted ANYTHING from the adenovirus shots except flawless execution of producing perfect spike protein every time, and only in the muscle cells in the immediate vicinity of the injection.

Both of which smug, overconfident predictions were contradicted by reality, as Feynman warned.

"If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's WRONG!"

56 posted on 05/27/2021 8:47:53 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Even the most common and one of the oldest drug on the market, ASPIRIN, can cause stomach bleeding in some folks.

There is NOT A SINGLE DRUG, a SINGLE VACCINE, A single MEDICAL PROCEDURE, etc which are all 100% safe. Patients have died from colonoscopy, tonsil removal, appendix surgery, on and on.

But logical & intelligent people use all of above because the percentage of bad things happening are smaller by orders of magnitude than benefits.

Life is never 100% pure. We must play the odds. I exercise daily knowing some people have dropped dead during exercise with heart attacks. Young football & basketball players have dropped dead during games. But since the odds are very small, we continue to pursue them.


57 posted on 05/27/2021 8:51:32 AM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump saved Millions of lives with his warp speed push of vaccines, including my spouse.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Back to Troll again I see.

How much is the CCP paying you to scare people into not taking the vaccine so they can be protected from the Chinese Bio-Weapon?

How much? Are you “On the Clock” right now??

The Chicoms want to see Americans sick and die from their Bio-Weapon.

Do they pay you in Yen or Dollars?
You’re just a Troll for hire.


58 posted on 05/27/2021 8:57:10 AM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase

You cant even get your false accusations correct.

According to that Baylor MD in Nature, it’s supposed to be a RUSSIAN collusion with “right wing extremists who post fale information about the 2020 election.”

Troll fail on your part.

I’d prefer people use HCQ/Zine or Ivermectin.

But that won’t make Big Pharma rich, will it?

And talking about “scaring people” you’re the one who are claiming people will get sick and die if they don’t do what YOU want.

Troll.


59 posted on 05/27/2021 9:12:33 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: entropy12

Some treatements have a much better risk-reward profile than others; and some treatments have been in use a long time, so the risk profiles are known.

Say, HCQ/Zinc, and Ivermectin.

Unlike the jabs.

And all this, so you can “FEEL” safe on board your self-centered cruises, boomer.


60 posted on 05/27/2021 9:14:18 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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