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The total collapse of Jewish and Israeli PR
JPost ^ | May 19, 2021 | Shmuley Boteach

Posted on 05/23/2021 12:13:04 PM PDT by Conservat1

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To: Conservat1
....for four years, Trump administration personalities were so effective at defending Israel – from Mike Pence to Mike Pompeo to David Friedman to Nikki Haley to Jared Kushner to Ivanka Trump to Jason Greenblatt and more – that we in the Jewish community got lazy about doing it ourselves. Now that they are not in office, Israel is being vilified in the media with few to defend her.

Well, it is true that Israel has a great friend in the Republican party and us 'deplorables'. The Demon Rats give lip service to Israel, blacks, the elderly, the working class, etc.

Wake up folks. Demon Rats are liars. All they want is POWER.

21 posted on 05/23/2021 2:40:07 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Conservat1

Unfortunately, the Jews worst enemy is their fellow Jews. American Jews do NOT support Israel as a nation, constantly voting to support ceding anything and everything to achieve a peace, which never comes. Oh, American Jews will plant a tree and remember the holocaust, but that is about it to their lip service. While their brothers and sisters in Israel suffer endless attacks, American Jews vote for leaders here who sell them out at every turn. Sad.


22 posted on 05/23/2021 3:07:44 PM PDT by Whatever Works
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To: Cottonpatch
When Jews are accused of killing Jesus just use the Christian Bible to refute them. It teaches that the Christians sin put Jesus on the cross because He died to redeem us to the God of Israel. Besides that Herod was an Edomite not Jewish.

Let's put one thing to rest. Israel has a right to defend itself - period!

Regarding Jews/Israel, Jesus and the Bible. Herod was not responsible for Jesus’ death. The Great Sanhedrin, which I’ll refer to simply as ‘Sanhedrin ‘, was Israel’s primary ruling governmental body of Jesus day. It maintained limited powers under Roman rule. It consisted of 71 members, which included the Jewish High Priest, Pharisees, Sadducees and other Jewish leaders.

The Sanhedrin, not Herod, condemned Jesus to death for what they considered Jesus’ blasphemy. Re: Matthew 26:57-68

Being under Roman rule, the Sanhedrin had no authority to execute. Initially, Pilate did not want to execute Jesus. The High Priest with Sanhedrin backing demanded Pilate execute Jesus and Pilate eventually obliged them. Re: John 19: 1-16

In John 19:11 Jesus tells Pilate (my paraphrase) that the High Priest’s sin for delivering Him to Pilate is greater than Pilate’s sin for initiating the execution. “Then Jesus said to Pilate: “You would have no authority over me at all unless it had been given you from above. Therefore he who delivered me over to you has the greater sin.” Re: John 19:11

Jesus came to die for the sins of mankind. God used both Jew and Gentile to bring about His death/execution. The sins of mankind (past, present and future) are what nailed Jesus to the cross.

23 posted on 05/23/2021 3:17:56 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

“ Let’s put one thing to rest. Israel has a right to defend itself - period!”

Of course they do.


24 posted on 05/23/2021 3:42:37 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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To: Conservat1

This has nothing to do with PR. It has to do with demographic change in Europe and the United States.

Boteach is living in a dream world if he believes PR can alter the forces demographic change has set in motion.


25 posted on 05/23/2021 5:23:40 PM PDT by nyc1
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To: Alberta's Child

Shame.


26 posted on 05/23/2021 5:28:07 PM PDT by Marchmain (If you're vaccinated, why do I need to wear a mask?)
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To: JesusIsLord

“Jesus came to die for the sins of mankind. God used both Jew and Gentile to bring about His death/execution. The sins of mankind (past, present and future) are what nailed Jesus to ?the cross.”
This Rabbi totally misunderstands the New Testament because it is very likely as a Rabbi he has never studied the New Testament. Christians (rational ones) do not blame the Jews for the crucifixion of Christ Jesus. We understand the crucifixion was pre-ordained. Jesus was The Unblemished Lamb of God. And, even if this fact may be misunderstood by some, Jesus dying cry to the Father to please forgive them for they know not what they do! Absolves all the Jews involved. God the Father would never ignore the dying request of His son.
The other thing the Rabbi seems to not understand is, Jesus did not die. His flesh was destroyed but, His Holy Spirit lives on. So, men did not kill Jesus. Men merely ended his existence within the Flesh of mankind.


27 posted on 05/23/2021 5:53:01 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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To: Whatever Works
Unfortunately, the Jews worst enemy is their fellow Jews. American Jews do NOT support Israel as a nation

I don't think that's true. I think the vast majority of American Jews do support Israel as a nation. They are not supportive of the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

28 posted on 05/23/2021 6:16:21 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia ( )
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To: ocrp1982
We understand the crucifixion was pre-ordained....Absolves all the Jews involved.

Yes, Jesus blood absolves us all, past, present and future. However, for 2000 years the church has taught that a person (Jew and Gentile) must believe/receive the blood of Christ for the remission of his sins. The 2 thieves who were crucified with Jesus offer a sobering example. One of the thieves expressed faith that Jesus would enter heaven and asked Jesus to remember him. Jesus told him that he would be with Him in paradise that day. The other thief berated Jesus and challenged his authority. Jesus was silent toward that thief.

The unbelieving Jew of today has the same problem that the unbelieving Jews of Jesus' day had (paraphrase)...'We have Moses and the Prophets and we do not believe you are Messiah'...."Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am ... Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, What need we any further witnesses? Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death."

Messiah is spoken of throughout the New Testament as both an all powerful potentate and a suffering servant. Christians know that Jesus was the suffering servant, the sacrificial lamb for our sins - and we also know He will sit on David's throne as King of kings and Lord of lords when He returns.

Many Jews today, like the early disciples, have come to the knowledge of Messiah (Christ). Sadly, the majority have not but the day is coming when all Israel (all Jews) will see and know Jesus for who He is. Paul describes that day as a resurrection. Praise God!!

“And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and pleas for mercy, so that, when they look on me, on him whom they have pierced, they shall mourn for him, as one mourns for an only child, and weep bitterly over him, as one weeps over a firstborn.” Zachariah 12:10

https://jewsforjesus.org/jewish-resources/messianic-prophecy/the-messiah-would-be-the-suffering-servant/

29 posted on 05/24/2021 5:14:15 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord
Correction to Post 29.

"Messiah is spoken of throughout the New Testament" should read:

"Messiah is spoken of throughout the OLD Testament"'

30 posted on 05/24/2021 5:19:30 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Conservat1
Hamas was the victor......

(notice the excellence of the destruction that dropped the structure within the property line)

31 posted on 05/24/2021 5:25:36 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) History: Pelosi was pitiful vindictive California crone)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

The American Jews got the Civil Rights act passed and can now join country clubs


32 posted on 05/24/2021 5:27:03 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) History: Pelosi was pitiful vindictive California crone)
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I was watching an historical documentary on women in concentration camps and what they had to endure. The survivor said that the first liberators in the camp were black American soldiers and she never forgot the kindness of how her and the other survivors were treated. She cited that experience as her main reason for supporting blacks in the 60s.


33 posted on 05/24/2021 6:36:58 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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34 posted on 05/24/2021 6:46:42 AM PDT by SJackson (Whom will insane lust for power spare, if it dares violate ties of kin & friendship? Dominic Mancini)
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To: Conservat1

The premise is false. Jews are very savvy at PR. However, the world has changed. (1) Internet means instant photos worldwide show real time destruction of Gaza which is used for instant PR by Hamas types. (2) Left wing has adopted the Pals as a “cause” in part due to Pal activism in Dem caucus (think the Squad) and provide PR. (3) Easier for warped leftists to fit Pals into didactic of oppressed people than Jews who have been oppressed for thousands of years but currently enjoy a better life in Israel.

Jews do need better PR but it will come by showing Hamas and Fatah crimes against their own people.


35 posted on 05/24/2021 3:22:49 PM PDT by KingofZion
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