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COVID-19 Vaccinations in the United States (13 May, as of 06:00 AM ET)
CDC ^ | 13 May 2021 | CDC

Posted on 05/13/2021 2:32:18 PM PDT by BeauBo

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To: House Atreides

True. But they specifically called out “unvaccinated donors” in their report so I presume it is fairly accurate, if self-reporting.

If true, and if it is representative of the country, the infection rate was much higher than reported. I presume a lot of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases.


21 posted on 05/13/2021 3:34:50 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

You’re right. I didn’t read carefully enough.


22 posted on 05/13/2021 3:39:26 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: BeauBo

One has to be an IDIOT to get an experimental vaccine for a virus that has a 99.85% survival rate

PURE STUPIDITY!!!!!!!!!

Healthcare workers are suffering “full body convulsions” from covid vaccines

Thursday, May 13, 2021 by: Ethan Huff

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-05-13-healthcare-workers-full-body-convulsions-covid-vaccines.html

Eric Clapton after COVID vaccination: ‘I should never have gone near the needle’

May 12, 2021

https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontline-news/eric-clapton-after-covid-vaccination-i-should-never-have-gone-near-the-needle?fbclid=IwAR3o_is0HCOX0OWqbtX9Q0yyj_L4Tbm147H_CwnIj0cfygQMicpvgnbuhcA


23 posted on 05/13/2021 3:48:37 PM PDT by afchief
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To: BeauBo
"Drop the masks!"

Yes. Good news! People required by employers to wear them through full shifts for about a year will be even happier about that. Most of them have been vaccinated.

24 posted on 05/13/2021 4:01:30 PM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: afchief

The virus has a 99% survival rate (not counting the much greater rate for gimps). The vaccines have a 99.99% rate for no epipens required (allergic reactions).

Can COVID-19 Vaccines Cause Myocarditis?
https://vaxopedia.org/2021/04/28/can-covid-19-vaccines-cause-myocarditis/


25 posted on 05/13/2021 4:07:26 PM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: BeauBo

Another great outcome: no more Democrat excuses for trivial mail-in ballots. :)


26 posted on 05/13/2021 4:10:16 PM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: monkeyshine

Or maybe they have spike protein disease...not covid


27 posted on 05/13/2021 4:18:19 PM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: silverleaf

Is there such a thing? Or are you joshing? I suppose there could be some disease that has a 20% prevalency rate that looks like covid antibodies. I mean, they wouldn’t have had reason to test for it in the past.


28 posted on 05/13/2021 4:22:17 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

I believe there is such a thing, it hasnt been formally named
Research has showed the spike protein causes disease even without the virus
Or the immunization lowers natural resistance to other coronoaviruses, perhaps all viruses
That’s why so many immunized people are or will be getting sick

The symptoms of an immune response to artificially produced spike proteins, an inflammatory war within your own immune system, would mimic covid


29 posted on 05/13/2021 4:48:01 PM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: silverleaf

I guess it’s possible. Hadn’t heard that one before but now that you mention it... But I was referring to the antibodies, which may or may not be differentiated from other spike protein antibodies. I just don’t know enough about the tests or the antibodies to answer.


30 posted on 05/13/2021 4:52:06 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: familyop

There is certainly some suspicion and a few high profile cases of pericarditis which is obviously similar.


31 posted on 05/13/2021 4:54:45 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: BeauBo

Only one story on the vaccine today LOL!

But I did find a new study on prev infection and vaccination.

“Eric Topol
@EricTopol
Much on T-cell for vaccines & variants is unknown.
A @GladstoneInst preprint sheds light:
—Prior covid + vaccine -> very strong response w/ homing
—Supports: (1) need for vaccine w/ prior covid, (2) just 1-dose, and (3) marked protection vs variants”
https://biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.12.443888v1


32 posted on 05/13/2021 6:15:55 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: BeauBo

I have no problem with folks who don’t get a vaccine just as much as I don’t care if they don’t get a flu shot. I do get annoyed by the cranks on this forum who want to ban vaccines or denounce them as “dangerous” by quoting quack medicine show “alternative medicine” charlatans, the latter of which in a sane world would be thrown off the roofs of buildings.


33 posted on 05/13/2021 6:22:58 PM PDT by Clemenza
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To: monkeyshine
Yes. Also from the link that I posted earlier,...

Can COVID-19 Vaccines Cause Myocarditis?
VaxoPedia
By Vincent Iannelli, MD
May 11, 2021

Not surprisingly, so can a natural COVID-19 infection.
“Pericarditis and myocarditis with clinical stability are frequent long after SARS-CoV-2 infection, even in presently asymptomatic subjects. These observations will probably apply to the general population infected and may indicate that cardiac sequelae might occur late in association with an altered (delayed) innate and adaptative immune response.”

Pericarditis and myocarditis long after SARS-CoV-2 infection: a cross-sectional descriptive study in health-care workers

What is surprising is that we are seeing myocarditis and pericarditis in some people long after they have recovered from their initial SARS-CoV-2 infection, sometimes in folks who were initially asymptomatic!
“If you have been diagnosed with COVID-19, it’s important to consult with your doctor immediately if you have shortness of breath, chest pain, or heart palpitations. These symptoms may indicate myocarditis as a complication of having the virus.”

Symptoms of Coronavirus That May Point to Possible Myocarditis


34 posted on 05/13/2021 6:33:28 PM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: BeauBo

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1392919106513375232

Lists 6 studies showing less than 1% “breakthrough” cases after vax.


35 posted on 05/13/2021 6:38:38 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Clemenza; BeauBo; House Atreides; 2aProtectsTheRest; mrsmith
"I do get annoyed by the cranks on this forum who want to ban vaccines or denounce them as 'dangerous' by quoting quack medicine show 'alternative medicine' charlatans, the latter of which in a sane world would be thrown off the roofs of buildings."

Yes, and they object to any accurate labels with negative connotations. I've done some digging to uncover the people behind it. In all cases so far, leftist feminists were revealed, which explains their bullying attitude and efforts to silence the objects of their hatred.

'Crazymothers' Want You to Stop Calling Them 'Anti-Vaxxers'
Live Science
By Nicoletta Lanese - Staff Writer
04 December 2019

[Excerpt:]

A group of people opposed to vaccinations has requested that media stop referring to them as "anti-vax." Instead, they would prefer to be called "vaccine risk aware."

On Dec. 1, an anti-vaccine group called the Crazymothers raised its plea on Twitter and Instagram, asserting that the term anti-vaxxer is "derogatory, inflammatory, and marginalizes both women and their experiences." In response, many social media users chimed in with their own alternative labels for the group, including "plague enthusiasts," "polio fanciers," "pro-disease" and "patient zero."

Dear Media,Please retire the use of the term “Anti-vaxxer.” It is derogatory, inflammatory, and marginalizes both women and their experiences. It is dismissivemy simplistic, highly offensive and largely false. We politely request that you refer to us as the Vaccine Risk Aware. pic.twitter.com/WtAyFOhLuvDecember 1, 2019


36 posted on 05/13/2021 6:53:44 PM PDT by familyop (Third world slaves are misled to generalize distrust against friendly learners.)
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To: monkeyshine

One young doctor who died after vaxxx had 2 different kinds of antibodies.
One to covid which he apparently had or been exposed to earlier,perhaps asymptomatically, and another to whatever resulted from being vaxxxed


37 posted on 05/13/2021 8:55:15 PM PDT by silverleaf (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: silverleaf

Now I’ve heard everything! What was cause of death?


38 posted on 05/13/2021 10:04:19 PM PDT by HandyDandy
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To: monkeyshine

It would be impossible to distinguish the S protein antibodies considering they’re nucleotide-for-nucleotide identical copies from the viral RNA. It would be like trying to distinguish lab-made hydrogen from “natural” hydrogen: at that level, there’s nothing to distinguish since you’re just talking about chemistry.

The one place you can distinguish is looking specifically for N protein (nucleocapsid) antibodies. Those antibodies will exist in those who’ve had a COVID-19 infection, but not in those who’ve only had a vaccine. They aren’t targeted by the vaccines because earlier research from SARS-CoV-1 (SARS2003) showed that nucleocapsid antibodies are sometimes sub-optimal, leading to a risk of antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). For all the wild claims of the vaccines causing ADE, they’re specifically targeting proteins where that doesn’t happen, which means if you’re worried about ADE, you’re better off getting vaccinated versus getting infected with SARS-CoV-2.


39 posted on 05/14/2021 3:00:03 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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To: BeauBo
"That seems to be what the White House/CDC are planning on."

Yeah, just took them a while to catch up to the conclusions I reached back in February. :-)

"As you have pointed out before, the curve is different, for different variants. Also, natural immunity is big unknown both prior exposures and cross-immunities. That likely varies from place to place as well. Some places will hit it early, others late. I think that enough of the early thresholds have been been crossed, to start seeing declines in the overall averages already."

Absolutely! If the April 2020 variant were the only one out there, I would say we've already reached the HIT and should see nothing but declines even if vaccinations ceased today. However, I'm accounting for the UK, South Africa, Brazil, and India variants - all of which are already here - since natural selection will favor the emergence of the most infectious one(s) once the number of vulnerable hosts is reduced past a certain point. It's critical we continue to reduce the number of vulnerable hosts through inoculation to reduce the risk of new variants emerging which are more difficult to deal with using the currently available tools (e.g. a new antibody-resistant variant).

40 posted on 05/14/2021 3:11:46 AM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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