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To: rktman

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Colonial was hacked... I get that. The pipeline had been run mechanically in the past and it’s easily run that way. So why shut it down? It doesn’t need a server to do what it has always done before.
Second thing. The pipeline doesn’t directly feed gas stations it feeds tank farms. Tank farms even if they weren’t getting fed fuel at all wouldn’t be getting close to running empty for at LEAST a month. So all this means is for some reason we have stopped trucking fuel from the tank farms. WHY....
Running out of gas at the pumps right now and not mid June has nothing to do with this pipe being hacked. Something is fishy.


2 posted on 05/12/2021 10:30:33 AM PDT by elpadre ( )
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To: elpadre

Almost like it was planned. For folks who refuse to stay locked, we say, “Got gas?”. 🐂💨💩😕


4 posted on 05/12/2021 10:36:32 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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To: elpadre

There is a shortage of gasoline truck drivers but in the Bidet’s America, everything is short now. Time for Randy Newman to put together a new song: Shortages have no reason to exist.


9 posted on 05/12/2021 10:42:23 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media.)
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To: elpadre
Tank farms even if they weren’t getting fed fuel at all wouldn’t be getting close to running empty for at LEAST a month.

When Katrina hit New Orleans, within 24 hrs the media was reporting incidents of cannibalism as food supplies ran short. Of course, it wasn't true. But the media loves a good scare, and it's easy to do.

If the government wants to cut off the supply of gasoline to drivers, just tell 'em the tank farm didn't get filled yesterday. The public will buy it. I'm not clear on the motivation, but the Left is working a strategy. That seems clear.

11 posted on 05/12/2021 10:44:25 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("I see you did something -- why you so racist?")
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To: elpadre

It sounds easy but many of the switches and gauges use electronic controls. Think stuxnet virus, they got into the Siemens controller units that powered the Iranian centrifuges. The units reported all was well but really the centrifuges were spinning wildly fast and hot until they fell apart.

I worked at a small manufacturing facility, the plant manager routinely tore out electronic components and replaced them with stepper motors and pneumatic (air pressure) gauges and the like. If the microchip fried he couldn’t fix that. But he could easily repair or replace or fabricate new a motor or valve or piston etc.


12 posted on 05/12/2021 10:45:10 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: elpadre

Exactly. Pipelines can be run mechanically is my understanding as well.


13 posted on 05/12/2021 10:46:37 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: elpadre

I think your analysis is correct about what it is really like. I think panic buying is the the answer though to why it ran out so much at gas stations. Even if everything is working smoothly, panic buying can still disrupt normal availability.


21 posted on 05/12/2021 10:59:49 AM PDT by Codeflier (Covid-19 taught me: Two types of "conservatives", frightened safety seekers vs. freedom lovers)
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To: elpadre; DesertRhino

Tank farms, at least the ones connected to Colonial ppl do not have a month capacity. It being a finished product ppl it has only enough capacity to supply the truck loading racks while another grade is sent though the ppl. Days perhaps a week, depending on which grade/product we are talking about.

Finished product tanks are not sized and grouped like crude oil tank farms. Compare the size of tank farms in Cushing to those of a finished product tank farm, like comparing a bucket to a swimming pool.

Running or starting up the ppl will happen under the approval of the DoE and other alphabet agencies. Colonial will not be able to start up until they get the been light from the feds.

When was the last time you heard of the feeds letting a situation go to waste?


25 posted on 05/12/2021 11:58:50 AM PDT by Oil Object Insp
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To: elpadre

Well the most obvious issue is that people began hording in anticipation of troubles. That said, it does go beyond that, as even airlines are apparently experiencing troubles.

I would note however, that there was word of anticipated shortages prior to this pipeline shutdown.


27 posted on 05/12/2021 1:17:49 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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