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To: Red Badger

I wonder if there’s more going on here than is being reported. Either way, since the search warrant excluded the contents, it seems that the government should return those without any question, whatsoever. It shouldn’t be too hard to identify the correct owners of each deposit box and simply return the contacts. One would think in today’s electronic world, they took pictures or video as they opened up each box, so there shouldn’t be much discrepancy, while we might all question the motives of the government, them personally pocketing things they see is typically not occurring. I wonder if this type of blanket seizure has occurred with safety deposit boxes held at banks? Is the problem here using a safe deposit company, who apparently was a front for illegal activity?


33 posted on 05/11/2021 11:16:30 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Buy American, Hire American! End All Worker Visa Programs. Replace Visa Workers w/ American Wo)
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To: Reno89519

Seems to me to be a 4th amendment violation any way you look at it. Anything they seized, even illegal drugs, cannot be used as evidence because the warrant stipulated that the contents of customers boxes were exempt............. PLUS I’m sure the company kept records of whose box was whose, else they wouldn’t get their rent money................


43 posted on 05/11/2021 11:24:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Jesus said there is no marriage in Heaven. That's why they call it Heaven.....................)
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To: Reno89519

This is wrong on so many levels. As one who worked in the system and was involved in many seizures, if the information as presented is true and the warrant didn’t cover the actual boxes, there is no reason for the FBI or anyone to open the box.

The way it should have worked was the box was removed from the frame, sealed without opening, and the owner of record’s information recorded on the box. Then the box itself would have been entered as inventory on the search warrant return.

This is a blatant abuse of the FBI’s power utilizing the search warrant as an excuse to gain access to the contents of the safety deposit boxes.

The Judge, who issued the warrant, should have the affirming agent in his court room post haste and answer under what legal grounds did the agents need to open the boxes? Simply doing an “inventory” doesn’t give them the right to violate someone’s Fourth Amendment.

It’s this kind of BS that gives those who play it straight a bad rap.


77 posted on 05/11/2021 12:26:07 PM PDT by offduty (Joe Biden, Commander in Thief)
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To: Reno89519

If you read the fine print when renting a bank safe deposit box, you’ll see your stuff is not safe even in a bank. Whatever you put in a bank safe deposit box, make sure it’s something you can afford to lose.


106 posted on 05/11/2021 6:06:28 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Reno89519
I just retired after 50 years in the bank security business. In that time I have opened hundreds of safe deposit boxes. the majority were non payment of rent. Those boxes are opened in presence of bank officers and notary publics.
I have also opened boxes from warrants for FBI, DEA, ATF and IRS. No one except agents see the contents of those boxes and they just bag the stuff up and take it.
Pretty unusual to seize the whole vault, banks and S&Ls have there own group of feds over them, FDIC etc.
I have less experience with the private vaults, I would guess your hometown cop dept. could raid and shut them down.
107 posted on 05/11/2021 7:54:19 PM PDT by ExSafecracker (Hey media. . . thats President Trump to you.)
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