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Is herd immunity a realistic concept? Fauci calls it ‘elusive’ and ‘mystical’
marketwatch ^ | 05/04/2021 | jaimy Lee

Posted on 05/04/2021 12:34:27 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Of all the moving goal posts in the COVID-19 pandemic, herd immunity may be the most difficult to pin down — and it may even be the wrong metric to track.

Herd immunity is the concept that once a majority of the population has been vaccinated or has natural immunity to an infectious disease, in this case SARS-CoV-2, life will shift back to normal.

But to listen to Dr. Anthony Fauci, President Joe Biden’s chief medical adviser and the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, is to hear him downplay the focus on this “elusive” concept and instead urge Americans to pay attention to other figures like vaccination rates.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fauci; herd; herdimmunity; immunity; mystical
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Mystical??? He thinks he is carnac the great now?
1 posted on 05/04/2021 12:34:27 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Like unicorns fauxcheeze?


2 posted on 05/04/2021 12:35:27 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this?)
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Now that we’re actually getting close to herd immunity, Fauci calls it nothing but ‘a mirage’.
Goal Posts moved again.


3 posted on 05/04/2021 12:36:31 PM PDT by lee martell
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Well, if it can’t be reached, then all mitigation is pointless and should be dropped.


4 posted on 05/04/2021 12:39:01 PM PDT by ferret_airlift
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To: lee martell

Here’s the thing...we’ve never had herd immunity for respiratory viruses (e.g RSV, Coronaviruses, Swine Flu, Rhinoviruses, Flu, etc.). From day 1 this has been a ploy to get everyone to take the vaccine


5 posted on 05/04/2021 12:39:04 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Maybe it’s like Antifa, just an idea.


6 posted on 05/04/2021 12:39:18 PM PDT by Flick Lives (“Today we celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the Information Purification Directives.”)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Dallas County is just about at herd immunity. So there’s that.


7 posted on 05/04/2021 12:39:36 PM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Idiotic. Herd immunity is achieved when an infected person infects, on average, less then one other person. When that level of immunity is achieved the disease dies out quickly.


8 posted on 05/04/2021 12:39:56 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ever notice no "champion of the working man" ever died of overwork?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

more evidence he believes in Luciferianism as everyone accepts. The accepted term term is “depletion of susceptibles” or natural depreciation of disease or the inverse of herd immunity


9 posted on 05/04/2021 12:41:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: ChicagoConservative27

https://www.facebook.com/FoxNews/videos/fauci-america-will-reach-herd-immunity-when-70-get-covid-vaccine/238452364286207/


10 posted on 05/04/2021 12:42:09 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: ChicagoConservative27; Jane Long; ransomnote; SecAmndmt; Secret Agent Man; Jan_Sobieski; bagster; ..

Of course we can’t go having any of that REAL herd immunity stuff going on now can we?

I mean, how are they going to keep us under control if they don’t have some fear porn to control us with?


11 posted on 05/04/2021 12:50:37 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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The Herd Immunity Threshold is 1-1/R0. To calculate it, you need the R0, but even a rough estimate will get you a pretty close idea of the HIT. Latest variants for COVID-19 have an R0 somewhere between 4.5 and 5.3. That puts the HIT at 78% - 81%.

Nothing “elusive” or “mystical” about that.

The waters muddy slightly when we talk about certain variants (e.g. P.1 from Brazil) and the extent to which one is immune after a mild or asymptomatic case, but not by much. All evidence thus far suggests that the vaccines are highly effective against all known variants and those who’ve had severe COVID-19 and recovered should also have significant protection against all known variants. Get that combined population to the HIT and you get what Israel is having right now: an end to COVID-19.

Israel had 67 new COVID cases and 1 COVID death yesterday. In the whole country. Down from nearly 10,000 new cases a day and 100 deaths. All their neighbors are seeing cases and deaths either rise or remain steady. Clearly we have the formula for victory in this fight. Thank you President Trump!


12 posted on 05/04/2021 1:00:02 PM PDT by 2aProtectsTheRest (The media is banging the fear drum enough. Don't help them do it.)
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I have a dream where these criminals are prosecuded and taken outside an hung by the neck until dead.


13 posted on 05/04/2021 1:05:48 PM PDT by stockpirate (Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God")
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Hit the dirt squirt!


14 posted on 05/04/2021 1:17:40 PM PDT by forgotten man
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To: metmom

So says this FRAUDci *expert*. Sick of his absurd ‘calls’.

How many patients has he treated, in his own docs office?

Oh, yeah....that’s right. NONE.


15 posted on 05/04/2021 1:18:33 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Fauci is elusive and mystical.


16 posted on 05/04/2021 1:29:12 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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This has gotten absurd, hasn’t it?

And to think , this all started with “two weeks to flatten the curve”, so that healthcare facilities wouldn’t be overwhelmed. In the beginning nobody was talking about shutting down society and putting all sorts of restrictions on us.

And it’s frustrating that we are doing all of this for a virus which 99% of people survive even if they do get the virus. We have reacted as if this virus were the return of the Bubonic plague from medieval Europe.


17 posted on 05/04/2021 1:30:52 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Maybe it’s a mirage because they refuse to do antibody studies to see if it’s been reached...


18 posted on 05/04/2021 1:39:35 PM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: metmom
We have Bill Gates, George Soros and others 'donating' to the CDC's Foundation.

We have the CDC owning the patent on the Corona Virus illegally, because you can't patent a natural virus and you can't patent an engineered biowarfare agent.

 Since the CDC owns the patent on the virus, the means by which it is tested and measured, others can't study it, create vaccines for it, create an accurate test for it. The CDC controls who researches it.

Those who fund the CDC own the plandemic. Their 'test' has a 90%+ false positive rate and does not detect the presence of the virus. Those behind our CDC get to tell us who has it, and who doesn't have it, using an inaccurate test. They will say it's present in overwhelming numbers and dangle fresh air to get us to take their vaccine. WHY would anyone do that? Why would Bill Gates, George Soros and others want to use the CDC to gain our compliance with their plans?

Until we reject the CDC, their handlers will continue to abuse us.

19 posted on 05/04/2021 1:46:59 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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The unprecedented push to vaccinate perfectly healthy citizens with experimental drugs can only end badly.


20 posted on 05/04/2021 1:57:12 PM PDT by chief lee runamok (Anti Socialist Derelict at Large)
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