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The Nanggala 402 Disaster: Another Kursk?
American Thinker.com ^ | April 29, 2021 | William Greg Reed

Posted on 04/29/2021 5:42:49 AM PDT by Kaslin

As the author of Red November, Spies of the Deep, and other submarine/military books, and as a former U.S. Navy Diver and submariner, I have access to “inside information” about the lost Indonesian submarine KRI Nanggala 402. The 1977-vintage German-built Cakra-class diesel submarine disappeared on Wednesday, April 21. It’s a smaller boat, only 195 feet long by 20 feet wide, with four diesel engines that recharge a bank of batteries to provide a few days of power while submerged. The sub then needs to come shallow to “snorkel” by running its engines to recharge batteries and ventilate the air.

The commander of the Indonesian National Armed Forces reported that the Nanggala had gone missing in waters about fifty nautical miles north of Bali. The Indonesian navy verified that the sub requested permission to dive prior to test firing two Surface and Underwater Target (SUT) torpedoes. An hour later, the training task force commanding officer authorized the shots, and the Nanggala flooded its torpedo tubes. The Chief of Staff of the Indonesian Navy said the Nanggala fired both an unloaded practice and a live torpedo before contact was lost.

What might have happened to the Indonesian submarine that led to its demise? How is this incident similar to the loss of the Russia Kursk submarine in August 2000? The Indonesian navy relayed that the Nanggala may have had battery power issues after submerging in waters more than 2,000 feet deep, which exceeds the sub’s crush depth by 400 feet. Torpedo test firings can also be hazardous, as the Kursk disaster demonstrated.

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1 posted on 04/29/2021 5:42:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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2 posted on 04/29/2021 5:45:50 AM PDT by z3n
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Whatever nation they are from, I feel pity for the sailors that died.


3 posted on 04/29/2021 5:50:33 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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Horrible way to. God rest their souls...


4 posted on 04/29/2021 5:57:37 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Kaslin

In WWII, the USS Tang, fired its last torpedo at a Japanese ship in the Formosa (now Taiwan) Straits. The torpedo circled round and sank the Tang.

Could this be a similar incident?

If so, the sound of the torpedo exploding might have been detected.

Could a PLAN (Chinese Communist) submarine have sunk the Indonesian submarine?


5 posted on 04/29/2021 6:14:43 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Kaslin

I had no idea that the Toledo may have caused the Kursk to sink. If so, no wonder Putin was peeved.


6 posted on 04/29/2021 6:17:32 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Kaslin

Good article!


7 posted on 04/29/2021 6:19:21 AM PDT by caver
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when you lose power and are on a 20 deg up bubble and sinking.. it sucks


8 posted on 04/29/2021 6:24:53 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: NFHale

Believe me, it’s very quick.


9 posted on 04/29/2021 6:25:39 AM PDT by DownInFlames (G)
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To: Kaslin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JelMSybwYDE


10 posted on 04/29/2021 6:26:41 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDQodj-HLFs


11 posted on 04/29/2021 6:30:06 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Kaslin
There are lots of things that could have gone wrong. Power failure, hull failure, fire/explosion onboard, just to name a few.
Examination of the wreck should tell us more...
12 posted on 04/29/2021 6:32:22 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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It was the proverbial Gay Whale.

He broke the sub in two and sucked out the seamen.


13 posted on 04/29/2021 6:36:30 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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if it was not a diesel I would suspect a reactor scram


14 posted on 04/29/2021 6:40:29 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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everything on a sub will kill you, or save you..


15 posted on 04/29/2021 6:41:46 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/watch-this-nuclear-sub-blow-its-ballast-while-still-in-1569469199#:~:text=What%20you%20are%20seeing%20here%20is%20a%20rare,event%20such%20as%20a%20fire%20or%20battle%20damage.


16 posted on 04/29/2021 6:48:59 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: reg45

Ummm...USN WWII torpedoes were defective for most of the war, a topic of hot debate about navy weapons development, procurement and indifference to warfighters.

I’m unfamiliar with the Tang incident, but the poor souls onboard Nanggala probably succumbed to something similar to that which took out Thresher. No conspiracy needed.


17 posted on 04/29/2021 6:54:55 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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the Steinke hood is the biggest joke ever, we all get to make the 100 foot free ascent in Groton but dude at periscope depth the escape hatch is 60 feet below water.


18 posted on 04/29/2021 7:01:28 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife
They were launching torpedoes, maybe they opened the wrong door in the torpedo tube?
Volatile peroxide fuel and sea water? Explosion hazard
Lead/acid batteries and sea water? Explosion/toxic gasses.

Just to name a few. I would be interested to know whether the hull was actually crushed or not. If the boat was already flooded and pressure equalized when she hit crush depth, the hull would be intact.

19 posted on 04/29/2021 7:04:49 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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otto fuel spill is very bad news


20 posted on 04/29/2021 7:15:12 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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