Posted on 04/28/2021 6:32:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
President George W. Bush stood before the U.S. Capitol in 2005 and delivered an Inaugural Address in which he declared his utopian vision that the United States had a mission to change the world.
He was wrong. History has now proved it.
"The survival of liberty in our land increasingly depends on the success of liberty in other lands," Bush said. "The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world."
"So, it is the policy of the United States," he said, "to seek and support the growth of democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world."
One place Bush was referring to then was a place America was -- and still is (for now) -- at war: Afghanistan.
Two decades ago, our country had an indisputable justification for war in Afghanistan. Its Taliban government had provided sanctuary to al-Qaida in the lead-up to the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
After those attacks, the House and Senate resolved: "That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons."
The U.S. military swiftly forced the Taliban out of power in Kabul, and Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaida, went into hiding in Pakistan.
On May 1, 2003, then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld went to Kabul and declared that "we're at a point where we clearly have moved from major combat activity to a period of stability and stabilization and reconstruction and activities."
"The bulk of this country today is permissive; it's secure," Rumsfeld said.
But then he added a caveat.
"I should underline, however, that there are still dangers; there are still pockets of resistance in certain parts of the country," he said.
Two years after that, Bush delivered that Inaugural Address where he unilaterally declared America's "goal of ending tyranny in the world."
Six years after that, U.S. Navy Seals stormed a bunker in Abbottabad, Pakistan, and delivered justice to Osama bin Laden.
Now move forward another nine years. Had Afghanistan become a land of liberty by 2020? No.
"Conversion from Islam to another religion is considered apostasy, which is punishable by death, imprisonment, or confiscation of property, according to the Sunni Islam Hanafi school of jurisprudence," said the State Department report on religious freedom in Afghanistan released last year. "The constitution states the Hanafi school of jurisprudence shall apply 'if there is no provision in the constitution or other laws about a case.'"
"According to international sources," it said, "Baha'is and Christians lived in constant fear of exposure and were reticent to reveal their identities to anyone."
Meanwhile, the Taliban still controls some Afghan territory, and the Islamic State and Levant-Khorasan Province now terrorizes -- even in Kabul.
"Some areas of the country were outside of government control, and antigovernment forces, including the Taliban, instituted their own justice and security systems," said the State Department's 2020 report on human rights in Afghanistan.
"ISIS-Khorasan (ISIS-K), an affiliate of ISIS and a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, continued to target and kill members of minority religious communities, and the Taliban again targeted and killed individuals because of their beliefs or their links to the government," the State Department said in its religious freedom report.
In August 2019, for example, "ISIS-K attacked a wedding hall in a predominantly Shia neighborhood of Kabul, killing 91 persons and wounding 143 others," said the State Department.
In March 2019, according to the department, "Media reported the Taliban killed a pregnant woman and her unborn child ... for allegedly calling the Taliban's war against the government 'illegitimate.'"
On Nov. 2, 2020, "Three ISIS-K militants carried out an attack on Kabul University with firearms and explosives, killing at least 22 people and wounding 22 others," the lead inspector general for Operation Freedom's Sentinel stated in his latest report.
In negotiating the U.S. plan to withdraw our forces from Afghanistan in May of this year, the Trump administration dealt with the Taliban -- not the Afghan government. This month, President Joe Biden stated that his administration would follow through on Trump's agreement and "begin our final withdrawal" from Afghanistan on May 1.
Seventy years ago, the great diplomat George Kennan warned America against fighting wars to advance a moralistic vision rather than to prudentially protect the interests of the American people.
"In the old days, wartime objectives were generally limited and practical ones, and it was common to measure the success of your military operations by the extent to which they brought you closer to your objectives," he wrote in "American Diplomacy." "But where your objectives are moral and ideological ones and run to changing the attitudes and traditions of an entire people or the personality of a regime, then victory is probably something not to be achieved entirely by military means or indeed in any short space of time at all; and perhaps that is the source of our confusion."
Kennan was right. Bush was wrong. The strategic aim of our government ought to always be to protect and advance the liberty and security of this nation.
We haven’t won a war in 3/4 of a century.
Which also happened to be the last war worth fighting.
You can’t polish a turd.
Nobody has. Alexander only had limited success.
The Brits found this out decades ago.
Ditto the Rooskies...
Sad but not unexpected.
The Middle East is where large nations go to die.
Afghanistan, however, did transform America.
First the neocon hawks, then the endless skirmishes that never resolved anything, then that benighted and tormented land turned like a vicious and snarling dog to subvert even the least attempt to install and support anything remotely resembling a representative republic. It is a collection of tribes and fiefdoms, and not subject to any form of civilized transactions.
The only way to change Afghanistan would be to execute each and every Islamist and Islamist believing Imam, essentially creating a ‘desert and call it peace’. We would have to be there for a hundred years or more. We can’t change millennia of indoctrination in a totalitarian religious belief system in a few years. You could cut the country into a portion and put up a no-cross wall, bringing in the women and children, leaving the male islamists to kill each other, but such draconian actions would never be approved. So, let them fight among themselves and not allow any from this area into our country.
And the Chinese are about to find out.
The only thing GWB really cared about was advancing his daddy’s plan to fundamentally transform the USA into North Mexico.
“ We haven’t won a war in 3/4 of a century.”
Wrong.
We won every war. But when the war changed from a war to anti-insurgent nation building we failed at that.
Wrong. We were CAPABLE of winning the wars in question. But we instead chose the destructive strategy you mentioned. That’s still losing the war.
Those wars changed nothing. Made matters worse. All we everyday Americans got was dead and severely maimed family members.
W hat a slap in the face to the soldiers who were sent to die in these wars to see a no good incestuous drug addict like Hunter Biden lecturing at Tulane.
There is one big thing wrong with America. Those scum in Washington DC and their greed and power lust.
And neither did everyone who tried from Alexander the Great onward. Also ask the Russians.
The Chinese are ruthless. I doubt they care about Afghan women’s rights.
Genghis did better than any invader of that region/area, but yeah.
Except the Chinese will do it right. Kill all the men and boys make all the women yours.
That is the only way.
True.
Bush says, "The best hope for peace in our world is the expansion of freedom in all the world."
Nice vision, but not our job.
In negotiating the U.S. plan to withdraw our forces from Afghanistan in May of this year, the Trump administration dealt with the Taliban -- not the Afghan government. This month, President Joe Biden stated that his administration would follow through on Trump's agreement and "begin our final withdrawal" from Afghanistan on May 1.
Xiden may have said that, but the withdrawal was pushed to 9/11. Now Xiden is sending 650 troops. I have to ask is to what ends? Is it to win the hearts and minds of Afghanis? That's what we have been doing in Afghanistan. It doesn't work. It didn't work in Vietnam. It didn't work in Iraq.
It needs to be the policy of the United States that we punish and/or destroy our enemies by military force when diplomacy fails and when it is in our national interest. We have a hell of a lot of pissant enemies in the world that we should just isolate. Cut them off from US Aid. Cut them off from trade. Cut them off from banking. Cut them off from immigration and entry to the US. Cut them off from the UN. Just leave them alone to suffer their own abuses.
As to Afghanistan, we failed to confront the Taliban's core strengths: Islam, funding from the heroin trade and wealthy Muslims, and the sanctuary and logistic support in Pakistan.
Since none of those could be dealt with at an acceptable cost, we lost. Yet in losing we are returning to a wiser strategy of restraint, caution, and the pursuit of clear national objectives at reasonable cost.
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