Lamont you big dummy!!
Posted on 04/23/2021 10:38:11 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Lamont you big dummy!!
Global Climate Change making the air less breathable. Can't remove masks until we eliminate fossil fuels.
Yea maybe he needs a sterile bag that he lives in..covid prophylactic suit..
Another subjective measure that only leads to an inevitable “not yet” result.
I want a hard measure that is beyond question. Not possible? Then we’re done following ‘orders’ you have no right to impose.
I live in this godforsaken hell hole. Lamont has always been a weaselly follower and emulated what Baker in MA or Cuomo did. Like in this case where he says our restrictions are lifted, except I’m still requiring masks.
For those of you who don’t live here, his emergency powers were supposed to expire on April 20, however he got the dem control legislature to give him another month till midnight on May 19.
His emergency powers expire at midnight on May 19. Unless he gets his emergency powers extended, then I don’t see how he can mandate masks or any other Covid related measures. If he does I’m sure he’ll find an illegal way to do it though.
Herd immunity against any disease has never been achieved by letting the disease spread uncontrolled. It has only been achieved through public health measures, mainly vaccination, but also measures such as masking and social distancing.
Furthermore, herd immunity does not protect individuals. What it does is decrease the number of susceptible people than a contagious person might encounter, thus inhibiting transmission. The level of herd immunity needed to interrupt disease transmission is a function of how contagious the disease is; for Covid-19, at least 60% of the population must be immune to inhibit transmission.
The idea of letting Covid-19 spread uncontrolled until "everyone" has had it is deadly: assuming 60% of the US population catches Covid-19 at the current death rate, that would doom 3.5 to 4 million people to death (plus tens of millions of survivors would have long-term respiratory, cardiac, and/or neurological issues). That would be a HUGE jump in the annual death rate; 2.8 million died in 2019, the most recent year in which data has been analyzed.
Ded Lament should order the opposite so herd immunity is reached faster...
Exactly, whether it’s Cuomo, Fauci or any other Democrat, they refused to give a specific number of cases, vaccines, whatever the case may be every time their ass as to win it can end. It’s always some vague when it gets lower, with more vaccinated, etc. In any time case it starts to go down, more people are vaccinated and they’re asked again well, we’re not sure yet we’re still studying the science, etc.
When will the Connecticutters have this?
never trust a government that opens its border and distributes thousands of disease carrying invaders across its country during a so called global pandemic...
Can you explain where you found that definition? It does not match ANY definition of herd immunity that I have ever encountered in a career of dealing with infectious disease.
Herd immunity is a function of how contagious a disease is, which is expressed with the R-naught (R0) value. It is determined by the equation "1-(1/R0)." Covid-19 has an R0 value of ~2.5; this means the necessary level of herd immunity to inhibit disease spread is 1-1/2.5=0.6, or 60%.
FYI, the R0 value of 2.5 means that, on average, an infected person spreads the disease to 2.5 other people.
Wow what a “real” scientific term he uses.
who gets to determine “real” herd immunity?
Sigh...
Here’s the simple truth.
Masks do nothing and lock downs are a time shifting mechanism at BEST.
That’s it, that’s the reality, this is a respiratory viral infection. Nothing is going to stop you from being exposed, and there was NO risk of the system being overwhelmed outside of some very small hot spots.
You want herd immunity, you let it run its course.. that’s the fastest way to get there.
It was obvious by last April there was little chance, other than a hot spot or two, that the system was in danger of being overwhelmed.
No, herd immunity doesn’t guarantee no cases, NOTHING guarantees no cases... herd immunity means that enough people are immune to it that the reproduction rate is low, I believe officially 1 or less.
Nothing is going to change the overall death rate or infection rates... trying to play what if is nonsense. All you have is a time shift mechanism, that does NOTHING to lower the overall infection or death rates, simply shifts them and the longer you slow the spread the longer you take it to reach herd immunity naturally.
These people need to stop playing like this is Ebola, because its not.
If something had a 80-90% infection rate and a 90% death rate, then yes, you lock it down... when it has at best 20% of the population even able to actually catch it, and a mortality rate of fractions of a percentage point, it is nonsensical to behave the way things have been.
Last year I heard rumblings from medical doctors about how we had come out of the so-called "pandemic" the first week in April of 2020.
And, I also heard them describe herd immunity as I have described it.
In plain language, when the number of those surviving dramatically increases while at the same time the number of deaths decreases THAT is proof of herd immunity.
Herd immunity is when more people survive the disease, NOT when everyone is vaccinated.
Check out the WHO's new definition of herd immunity, because it is not a scientific definition, it is a political definition.
Real medical doctors hate it when politics is substituted for medicine.
Another thing, the simple explanation is usually the best one.
So he and his pukes will decide when
That’s it, that’s the reality, this is a respiratory viral infection. Nothing is going to stop you from being exposed, and there was NO risk of the system being overwhelmed outside of some very small hot spots.
If you *really* believe that masks do nothing, despite the many studies that show their efficacy, then how do you explain the dramatic slowing of disease spread after mask and social distancing measures were implemented?
At the time I started recording cases on Apr 5, 2020, there were 312,245 cases in the US. Covid-19 has an R-naught of around 2.5; I determined that each round of transmission took 9 days. Using these numbers (rounded):
312,245 x 2.5 = 780,613.
780,613 x 2.5 = 1,951,531
1,951,531 x 2.5 = 4,878,828
4,878,828 x 2.5 = 12,197,070
12,197,070 x 2.5 = 30,492,676
30,492,676 x 2.5 = 76,231,689
76,231,689 x 2.5 = 190,579,224
190,579,224 x 2.5 = 476,448,059
Thus, it would have taken only 8 rounds of transmission, or 72 days, to reach full infection of the US population (which is 330 million) in the absence of efforts to stop transmission.
It has been 383 days since I first recorded data, and we are still at fewer than 10% of the population affected.
So, I will reiterate: how do YOU explain the low number of actual cases versus the number of cases we would have expected by allowing unrestricted transmission?
And, once again, allowing a disease to run its natural course has NEVER resulted in herd immunity. Why would we expect Covid-19 to be any different? (BTW, if you have an example of a disease that NATURALLY died out due to NATURALLY acquired herd immunity, please share and provide the supporting references within the medical literature.)
why should anyone believe anything our government says about stopping the spread of the virus while the same government opens the border, invites, and then distributes thousands of disease carrying invaders across our country during a so called “global pandemic”??????????????...
The information about stopping the spread comes from the scientific community. The decision to allow unrestricted border crossings of potentially infectious aliens was made by leftist politicians for political purposes.
Personally, I have much more confidence in the scientific community than I do in leftist politicians.
why should anyone believe the scientific community when they won’t speak up about the dangers of our government inviting and distributing thousands of disease carrying invaders across our country during a so called “global pandemic”??????...
Masks do NOTHING of significance.
The facts are very straight forward, and every study ever done on universal mask use for respiratory viral infection has shown the same thing...
Transmission rates drop about 1% for most folks (a little under 2% for the very elderly) when everyone wears a mask, THAT’S IT!
The difference in the transmission rates, with everyone wearing a mask, and no one wearing a mask is 1% different for most folks... you are about 1% less likely to get infected if everyone is wearing a mask than if no one is wearing a mask.. if you are elderly, you are a little under 2% less likely... THat’s the facts... that is what EVERY study ever done on the matter has shown.
The most recent from the CDC itself, shows the same numbers as every previous study.
That’s the fact jack, not the propaganda, not the dogma, not the fearmongering.... that’s the absolute scientific facts.
about 1%... Transmission rates lower by about 1% by everyone wearing a mask, that’s it. Everyone wearing a mask reduces the infection rates by a whole 1% vs no one wearing one.
Below is an extract, and the latest study, right from the CDC itself...
“During March 1–December 31, 2020, state-issued mask mandates applied in 2,313 (73.6%) of the 3,142 U.S. counties. Mask mandates were associated with a 0.5 percentage point decrease (p = 0.02) in daily COVID-19 case growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.1, 1.5, 1.7, and 1.8 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all) (Table 1) (Figure). Mask mandates were associated with a 0.7 percentage point decrease (p = 0.03) in daily COVID-19 death growth rates 1–20 days after implementation and decreases of 1.0, 1.4, 1.6, and 1.9 percentage points 21–40, 41–60, 61–80, and 81–100 days, respectively, after implementation (p<0.01 for all). Daily case and death growth rates before implementation of mask mandates were not statistically different from the reference period.”
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