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Posted on 04/17/2021 2:35:49 PM PDT by rxsid
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Regarding item #5 in your list:
Look at the effect of masks on deaf and hearing disabled folks.
I know plenty of very bright people who cannot spell to save their lives thanks to public education and getting rid of phonics and memorization.
“even the other study admits that there is a benefit from masks only from symptomatic (already sick) individuals. “
Point out where it says “only”.
One of the hazards of scientifically naive people attempting to read scientific articles is the failure to understand what they read. No serious researcher ever relies on the introductory abstract.
These are written to satisfy editors, not to convey accurate information. Turn to the Method section and the Results section and peruse the statistics. The Leung et al article clearly documents that there was no statistically significant difference between mask and no mask conditions for hypothetical transmission of Covid 19.
I would hope it wouldn’t have been peer reviewed by grammar and spell checkers...
I feel like I just destroyed that "study". The author literally used another study that concluded that wearing masks did reduce the transmission of Covid droplets to support his conclusion that masks don't reduce the transmission of Covid droplets. How is that not BS?
And then he's going to conclude that masks cause hypercapnia and hypoxia when it has been shown repeatedly that they don't.
And then he claims that they can block a 0.299 nm dia. O2 molecule and a 33 nm dia. CO2 molecule but there's just no way they can block a 140 nm dia. Covid virus. Seems like some BS to me.
what do you think of requiring asymptomatic or healthy people to wear impediments to the only respiratory apparatus we have, our nostrils
It's not really an impediment IMO. Wearing an N95 all day would be an impediment but wearing a surgical mask into a crowded store while you shop isn't.
The Covid flu was a hoax, masks a hoax, the “vaccines “ a hoax. Americans were played by fear from a virus that has a 99.9 percent ( current figure) of survival....the Covid virus has burnt itself out....as do all viruses.
Interesting that you would suggest that.
re covid and my family's experience....
My sister and her family of 4 are religious mask wearers and sanitizing everything. For a small peak into their mindset, she is generally a "classic" liberal and he is generally an "independent" when it comes to politics and world views. They are both teachers. The only one in their family that is immunocompromised is their special needs teen daughter who was going to a special needs school that was open early last fall.
They have nurses that are on site and help with various needs.
EVERYBODY was an ardent mask wearer and followed the government's protocols judiciously.
The daughter wound up infected with covid and it was traced back to one of the nurses at the school. She in turn infected her sister and both mom (my sister) and dad (my brother-in-law).
The first conversation I had with my sister...she told me that when they informed their youngest (9 at the time) they all had covid....the daughter's 1st response was to ask if they were all going to die. No joke. This is how much the fear porn has affected people I know. Since then, all have recovered after about a week or so of mild/moderate "flu like" symptoms.
As for my immediate family, wife and I are conservative with background/working in the scientific and health care fields and 3 kids. Nobody is immunocompromised.
Our daughter, the youngest, goes to a Christian high school. They went back to in person learning early in the school year last fall.
About a month after my sister's daughter brought covid home to their entire family of mask wearers and government covid rule followers...our daughter brought covid home from another student at school. Their school did all the things the government told them to do in order to open and remain open. Distancing, washing, sanitizing, temp checks, mask wearing....everything.
Well, she wound up being the only one in the family to have covid (we've all been tested multiple times). We did no additional cleaning/sanitizing over what we normally would do around the house. Nobody quarantined while at home (ex. in their room) and we never wore a mask in our house. Our daughter is doing fine, with only a remaining slight decrease in sense of smell that gets better by the week.
We only ever wear a mask when required to shop or when required to be somewhere (i.e. at work, or even while outdoors skiing). Unfortunately for this case, we live in a blue (formerly red) state that has perpetuated the insanity of lockdowns and other unscientific mandates.
We've known for a long time now that this isn't the black plague. Point is from our perspective...be concerned if your immunocompromised for any reason (age, disease, etc), wear a mask and eye protection and take necessary precautions to limit exposure....like you SHOULD do with ANY outbreak of infectious disease in your area.
EVERYONE else should be "allowed" to go back to their lives as before.
From Results:
“We detected coronavirus in respiratory droplets and aerosols in 3 of 10 (30%) and 4 of 10 (40%) of the samples collected without face masks, respectively, but did not detect any virus in respiratory droplets or aerosols collected from participants wearing face masks, this difference was significant in aerosols and showed a trend toward reduced detection in respiratory droplets (Table 1b).”
The challenge that simply and without compromise must be overcome is to convince people that they are causing serious harm in a variety of ways to themselves, to their children, to their society, to their country ... to their very quality of living by continuing to wear -- and continue to demand that everyone else, healthy or not wear -- these vile, dehumanizing, useless masks!
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I don't know. Seems to be the prevailing thought that the virus is aerosolized. If so I suppose that is technically "droplets" but so small they float.
You’re the one perpetrating the hoax here. We have proven that repeatedly.
“Hoping enough people see this a and this idiocy ends “
Don’t count on it, ALL counter narrative to the planscamdemic is ruthlessly suppressed.
There was a time that required the Gestapo, Stazi and KGB.
Now fascist eFbook, Twat, Googevil, MSM, et al. suffice.
I’m anti-mandatory-mask for numerous reasons but this idiotic article about a seemingly flawed paper would not help my argument.
I imagine a crowded wal mart super center that has people coming and going all day long. They're all contributing to the number of respiratory droplets floating around in a Brownian motion suspension. Some of the smaller droplets are, for all intents and purposes, aerosols and they can hang out in the air current for hours. If you're in the middle of a pandemic, this could be a problem. This is also why social distancing is an equally important component to these mitigation measures. the masks decrease the distance the droplets travel before hitting the ground and the social distancing decreases the likelihood of breathing in an infectious dose.
And, last time I checked, we don't even know what the infectious dose of Covid is yet but there is a likelihood that breathing a larger dose increases the probability of developing severe disease so that's another aspect to all of this. Maybe it doesn't stop you from getting it but it stops you from getting a bunch of it and, thereby, developing the more severe form of the disease.
I’m in the land of the blue state weinies. Believe me, I know their arguments:
- the big issue is not getting too big a load of exposure and spitum and the like are big clumps that would be more likely to be trapped within a sick person’s mask. Blah blah blah.
Unlike a handkerchief which goes back into a pocket, the mask stays on the face ... and what do you think occurs when that droplet dries out after 10 or 15 minutes? Like any non-HEPA dry filter the residue unloads and, if viruses are present (of course we just assume even healthy people are covid carriers), the particles are discharged, either though the mask with each exhale (though the mask cannot contain a virus it does restrict airflow causing a significant increase in the exhaled air velocity), or deep into the lungs of the masker with each exhale.
(Note: I'm not just some internet opinion writer here ... I have over five decades of hands-on experience with PPE ... you should consider this explanation.)
Face coverings = Islamization of America
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