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Kristin Smart Case: Podcaster Helped California Cops Solve Cold Case Killing
KSBW ^ | Apr 16, 2021 | Brian Melley

Posted on 04/16/2021 12:29:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Chris Lambert created a podcast about the 1996 disappearance of college freshman Kristin Smart and it's taken over his life.

Chris Lambert would like to get back to making music but he can’t seem to stop chasing a ghost that has haunted him for nearly 25 years.

A billboard on the side of the road on California's Central Coast led him on a detour three years ago from his career as a singer-songwriter and recording engineer. He created a podcast about the 1996 disappearance of college freshman Kristin Smart and it's taken over his life.

"I can't step away from it for more than a few days," Lambert said. "I just get sucked right back in because I want to be resolving things."

It was an unlikely turn for someone who refers to himself as a shy, "random boy with a beard" and it has produced results he never imagined.

On Tuesday, as San Luis Obispo County Sheriff Ian Parkinson announced arrests, he credited Lambert with helping draw worldwide attention to the case and bringing forward several key witnesses.

The longtime suspect, Paul Flores, and Smart were fellow freshmen at the California Polytechnic State University campus in San Luis Obispo. Now 44, Flores was charged with murder in the killing of the 19-year-old while trying to rape her in his dorm room, prosecutors said.

His father, Ruben Flores, 80, was charged as an accessory after authorities said he helped hide the body, which has never been located.

Paul Flores' lawyer has declined to comment on the criminal charge. A lawyer for Ruben Flores said his client is innocent.

Lambert has been thrust into the spotlight with the arrests. His eight-part series, "Your Own Backyard," hit 7.5 million downloads Thursday and it was the No. 2 podcast on iTunes. Lambert's phone has been blowing up with messages - from fans, tipsters and news reporters. He appreciates the attention but has been overwhelmed.

"It's driving me insane," he said, yet he remained focused, patient and polite during a 45-minute interview with The Associated Press on Wednesday.

All the attention isn't leading to any money - Lambert takes no advertising for the podcast, relying on donations.

Chris Lambert, musician and recording engineer, records the arraignment of Paul Flores, and his father Ruben Flores, at the San Luis Obispo Superior Court in San Luis Obispo, Calif., Thursday, April 15, 2021. His is the latest in a line of true-crime podcasts to play a role in an arrest, a court appeal or even an exoneration.

"Up and Vanished" led a man to confess to killing a Georgia beauty queen, while "Serial" helped a convicted murderer initially win an order for new trial in Maryland, though higher courts overruled that decision.

"In the Dark" unearthed new evidence in a case prosecutors dropped instead of seeking a seventh trial against a Mississippi man who spent decades on death row.

Lambert, 33, was just 8 when Smart vanished a short drive up the coast from his own home in the small town of Orcutt, about 140 miles northwest of Los Angeles. It scared him that someone had gone missing and no one knew what happened.

For more than two decades, a billboard featuring a photo of a grinning Smart advertised a $75,000 reward. It's located in the town of Arroyo Grande. where Paul Flores grew up and his parents still live.

Lambert passed it many times and it ultimately motivated him to start investigating.

"I thought I'd give it a shot and see if I could get a few people talking," Lambert said. "All I have to do is get over my shyness and start calling these people out of the blue and start asking really personal questions."

He bought some high-quality recording equipment and began making calls. He located overlooked or reluctant witnesses who hadn’t spoken with police, he said.

People opened up to Lambert and he encouraged them to contact investigators with relevant information. Deputies started calling him to connect them with people he interviewed.

"What Chris did with the podcast was put it out nationally to bring in new information," Parkinson said without elaborating on the new evidence. "It did produce some information that I believe was valuable."

A former colleague of Paul Flores' mother, Susan Flores, told him Mrs. Flores came into work after Memorial Day weekend 1996 - when Smart went missing - saying she didn't sleep well because her husband had gotten a phone call in the middle of the night and left in his car.

"The speculation has been all along that Paul called his dad in the middle of the night and his dad came up and helped him get rid of Kristin’s body," Lambert said.

A tenant who lived for a year at Susan Flores' home told him she heard a watch alarm every morning at 4:20 a.m. Smart had worked as a lifeguard at 5 a.m. at the Cal Poly pool, so it’s possible she set her watch to wake up at that early hour.

"That seems to be the moment in the podcast series that most people have been just completely shaken," he said. "This may be the piece of evidence that points to the fact that Kristin was buried in that backyard or that her belongings were buried in that backyard."

Susan Flores, who hung up when called by the AP, told KSBY-TV in March in the only interview she's granted that she could "shoot a lot of holes into a lot of (Lambert’s) lies."

She said Lambert never contacted her. He said he sent an intermediary to her house and Susan Flores threatened to call the police. His efforts to speak with Paul Flores were also fruitless, he said.

Lambert spoke with a former Australian exchange student at Cal Poly who said he saw Flores and Smart struggling near where Smart was last seen. Lambert said investigators had dismissed that account in the early years of the probe.

Lambert has developed a close relationship with the Smart family, who issued a statement after the arrest, praising his skills and "unselfish dedication."

He is grateful to have grown close to the family. He feels like he's gotten to know Kristin Smart, but wishes he had the chance to meet her.

"For most of my life, Kristin Smart has been a face on a billboard," he wrote on Instagram. "I've learned about Kristin the daughter, Kristin the big sister, Kristin the friend, the neighbor, the roommate. Kristin the swimmer. Kristin the dreamer. And I've learned that you can miss a person you never even got to meet."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: coldcase; crime; kristinsart; kristinsmart; murder; podcast

1 posted on 04/16/2021 12:29:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

BLM and ANTIFA can learn something..That’s how you make a difference in the world......


2 posted on 04/16/2021 12:33:56 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (When will the dems turn the US into Venezuela????)
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To: nickcarraway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Kristin_Smart


3 posted on 04/16/2021 12:36:31 PM PDT by Red Badger ("We've always been at war with Climate Change, Winston."..............................)
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To: nickcarraway

This is very cool. I’m an IDTV addict and have thought about investigating some cold cases but haven’t done so.


4 posted on 04/16/2021 1:41:10 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: nickcarraway

The watch alarm reminds me of a Colombo episode where the body was in the wall with her cellphone, and he called the number!!!!!


5 posted on 04/16/2021 1:44:22 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: nickcarraway

What ever happened to paragraphs?


6 posted on 04/16/2021 2:53:55 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: FReepaholic

Didn’t you know, the new standard is: a sentence is the same thing as a paragraph. Except if the writer wants to put two sentences together.


7 posted on 04/16/2021 3:33:24 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: Hambone 1934

Only way Pantifa and BLM will learn anything is when they are dead.


8 posted on 04/16/2021 3:36:54 PM PDT by Wizdum (Tyranny always ends badly for the tyrannical. Ask Ceaușescu, Gaddafi or Saddam.)
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To: nickcarraway

Maybe he can help the fbi do their job


9 posted on 04/16/2021 3:59:56 PM PDT by NWFree (Socialism is legalized plunder)
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Maybe he can help the fbi do their job

They do seem to give chasing Trump and his associates a higher priority than protecting children.

10 posted on 04/16/2021 4:25:24 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Ann Archy

Cell phone?


11 posted on 04/16/2021 4:33:16 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: FReepaholic

They’ve been deemed racist, and thus cancelled.


12 posted on 04/16/2021 4:40:44 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t know if I should thank you or not. I am now into hour 6 of this podcast. It has pre-occupied my day and I have done little else. Quite fascinating.


13 posted on 04/16/2021 9:18:01 PM PDT by MHT
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To: Rusty0604

This should be an IDTV series. The podcast has some pix but it could easily be one of their series.


14 posted on 04/16/2021 9:19:17 PM PDT by MHT
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